Clinton responsible for Warrantless Wiretapping?

[SUBMAN1]

Nice. Program has been in place during the 1990's.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/16/wa...=1&oref=slogin

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12...apping_latest/

-S

[Stealth Hunter]

Nice try on their part, but wiretapping has been in place since Nixon went into office. I used to work for AT&T during the 1970's and '80's, and we were wiretapping back then just as we are now.

It's not Clinton's fault. These people are just trying to pin the blame on him and walk away from the scene of the crime. Nixon is the first one who did major wiretapping schemes (not something you'd read about everyday), not Clinton.

[Skybird]

Yep, Nixon's the name I also remember in this context.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Nice try on their part, but wiretapping has been in place since Nixon went into office. I used to work for AT&T during the 1970's and '80's, and we were wiretapping back then just as we are now.

It's not Clinton's fault. These people are just trying to pin the blame on him and walk away from the scene of the crime. Nixon is the first one who did major wiretapping schemes (not something you'd read about everyday), not Clinton.

Nixon only did it in relation to his campaign. This is constant wiretapping on a daily basis for both drug enforcement and terrorists activities.

Kind of different.

It just irks me that a lot of liberals out here blame this on the Bush admin when it has been going on for a while. This is again, one less thing to blame on Bush. He may have screwed up on the Mexican thing, but the more time goes on, all this crap I keep hearing him get nailed on was never started by him. If you were over here, you'd know what I am talking about. This is in relation to the current string of wiretaps of course - they have been in place since the mid 90's.

-S

[Zachstar]

Dude why are you defending a sinking ship.

If you want Bush to not face jail then a good thing to do is let people FORGET about it.

Bush will be out of office soon enough and everyone will forget. I sure hope nobody is going to let some recent hot air think bush is going to be impeached or anything.

Clinton got away with having sex. Bush will get away for starting a stupid war. Ms. Clinton will get away with being a *****. Unless Ron Paul lays the smack down and thats the bottom line!

[Reaves]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Clinton got away with having sex. Bush will get away for starting a stupid war. Ms. Clinton will get away with being a *****. Unless Ron Paul lays the smack down and thats the bottom line!

I thought he got in trouble for lying about not having sex with 'that woman' not actually doing the deed.

But then again, we'd have no politicians if that was the case!!!

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Dude why are you defending a sinking ship.

If you want Bush to not face jail then a good thing to do is let people FORGET about it.

Bush will be out of office soon enough and everyone will forget. I sure hope nobody is going to let some recent hot air think bush is going to be impeached or anything.

Clinton got away with having sex. Bush will get away for starting a stupid war. Ms. Clinton will get away with being a *****. Unless Ron Paul lays the smack down and thats the bottom line!

I honestly think Clinton has no chance. Bush / jail, no chance either. Clinton has too much baggage, I think maybe one in 10 people I know only partially like her. On the Bush thing, not sure why jail would be an option?

-S

[sonar732]

Don't forget...

Oral Sex isn't sex. :hmm:

I'd like to see my wife's reaction to that if I attempted that excuse. :rotfl::rotfl:

[Zachstar]

I can give you multiple reasons why Bush needs to be jailed and sent off to face an international trial. But then id have to talk about a bunch in his little party. It isn't worth it to debate a sinking ship.

I've accepted that the scumbag will be out of office soon enough. I sure hope Ron Paul replaces him tho. We need him!

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by sonar732

Don't forget...

Oral Sex isn't sex. :hmm:

I'd like to see my wife's reaction to that if I attempted that excuse. :rotfl:

I found myself curiously aroused by that post for some strange reason... and that's never happened before...

JUST KIDDING.:rotfl:

EDIT:

Tell that to the Catholic Church!

[August]

Originally Posted by Reaves

I thought he got in trouble for lying about not having sex with 'that woman' not actually doing the deed.

Yeah, lying under oath in a court of law to be exact. Less illegal but more damning in my book is him addressing the nation on the subject and lying right to our faces. Literally waggling his finger in the collective faces of the American people in phony outrage.

[Peto]

Originally Posted by August

Yeah, lying under oath in a court of law to be exact. Less illegal but more damning in my book is him addressing the nation on the subject and lying right to our faces. Literally waggling his finger in the collective faces of the American people in phony outrage.

That's always kind of bothered me too. Still, sex is a topic best handled by families and I don't really think he owed me an explanation for doing the wild thing in the office. And no one got killed. Bush lied about many things and thousands have died. My son having been wounded twice makes "a little" more personal--I admit that.

I'll let you all decide which scenario I think is worse.

[August]

Originally Posted by Peto

I'll let you all decide which scenario I think is worse.

This thread isn't about Bush, it's about Clinton. As has been argued many times on this forum, the (apparent) sins of one president do not mitigate or excuse the sins of another.

[SUBMAN1]

Besides, I have yet to see proof Bush lied anyway. All assumptions.

-S

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Besides, I have yet to see proof Bush lied anyway. All assumptions.

-S

If Bush lied about anything regarding Iraq, so did much of the world's intelligence agencies. So did much of the 90's Democrat Party which repeatedly asserted that Saddam had WMD programs. This "Bush lied" crap doesn't fly. And G.W. Bush is not going to jail. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:That is just plain stupid. That is merely infantile fantasies of the left.