LIT SHIPS

paul7271 · 12-26-07, 10:20 PM

Came across two ships during patrol to DH54, they are bearing PORTUGAL
flags.The larger of the two has two spot lights illuminating it's flag.Both
ships were fully lit,side markers,cabin,lights,and mast,stern,bow lights.
The sighting was at 23:00,darkand heavy seas.they get a pass or
sink em?

12-26-07, 10:23 PM

Neutral ships were lit.

GoldenRivet · 12-26-07, 11:15 PM

neutral ships knew that u-boats were raising hell in the atlantic, and they used nearly every possible means to protect themselves from attack. this included lighting up their flags and running with all lights on... this is pretty much what ships do all the time.

chances are when you see a ship travelling blacked out it is because he is trying not to draw attention to himself... because he is an enemy ship.

some neutral ships even would go so far as to write in large letters on the port and starboard sides of the ship the name of the country of registry... ie.

"P O R T U G A L"

or they would occasionally paint a large example of their flag on the side of the ship so that from a long distance any of the warring nations could quickly ID them as non-target..

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 12-26-07, 11:54 PM

I found something every strange on my 8th patrol. I found a convoy off the east coast of Scotland, but it wasn't your normal eveyday convoy. It was a mixed convoy consisting of three destoryers as escorts, about four british ships, a large amount of norwegian ships at least ten or so one swedish ship and two finnish ships. But the ships from norway, finland, and sweden didn't have their lights on even though all of these countrys are curently neutral as its early 1940.

GoldenRivet · 12-27-07, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg

I found something every strange on my 8th patrol. I found a convoy off the east coast of Scotland, but it wasn't your normal eveyday convoy. It was a mixed convoy consisting of three destoryers as escorts, about four british ships, a large amount of norwegian ships at least ten or so one swedish ship and two finnish ships. But the ships from norway, finland, and sweden didn't have their lights on even though all of these countrys are curently neutral as its early 1940.

as a general rule of thumb... if you are a neutral ship traveling within a non-neutral convoy... navigational lights are a no-no because they easily give away the position of the rest of the convoy.

smoking on your watch shift was also out of the question... (i dont remember the number) BUT i read somewhere that on a clear, calm night, in perfect dark with no moon the human eye can see a match strike or a cigarette lighter light up at some insane distance (it was like 50 miles)

also, this rule of engangement is not simulated within SH3... but im fairly certain that ships traveling under british escort were fair game for attack even if they were of neutral registry... so, you would not have lit ships within a mixed convoy.

jimmie · 12-27-07, 04:59 AM

I think if you lit control room (deck? what's the english word) at the night, you can't see a thing ouside and it's very dagnerous obviously and so it must be very unrealistic. Cabin and flags yes but not control room I think.

12-26-07, 10:20 PM	#1
paul7271 Mate Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ILLINOIS Posts: 60 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 0	LIT SHIPS Came across two ships during patrol to DH54, they are bearing PORTUGAL flags.The larger of the two has two spot lights illuminating it's flag.Both ships were fully lit,side markers,cabin,lights,and mast,stern,bow lights. The sighting was at 23:00,darkand heavy seas.they get a pass or sink em?

12-26-07, 11:15 PM	#3
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	neutral ships knew that u-boats were raising hell in the atlantic, and they used nearly every possible means to protect themselves from attack. this included lighting up their flags and running with all lights on... this is pretty much what ships do all the time. chances are when you see a ship travelling blacked out it is because he is trying not to draw attention to himself... because he is an enemy ship. some neutral ships even would go so far as to write in large letters on the port and starboard sides of the ship the name of the country of registry... ie. "P O R T U G A L" or they would occasionally paint a large example of their flag on the side of the ship so that from a long distance any of the warring nations could quickly ID them as non-target.. __________________

12-26-07, 11:54 PM	#4
Kptlt. Neuerburg Admiral Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,279 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	I found something every strange on my 8th patrol. I found a convoy off the east coast of Scotland, but it wasn't your normal eveyday convoy. It was a mixed convoy consisting of three destoryers as escorts, about four british ships, a large amount of norwegian ships at least ten or so one swedish ship and two finnish ships. But the ships from norway, finland, and sweden didn't have their lights on even though all of these countrys are curently neutral as its early 1940. __________________ "When you're born into this world, you're given a ticket to the freak show. If you're born in America you get a front row seat." - George Carlin

12-26-07, 10:23 PM	#2
Kraut Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Neutral ships were lit.

12-27-07, 04:59 AM	#6
jimmie Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 259 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think if you lit control room (deck? what's the english word) at the night, you can't see a thing ouside and it's very dagnerous obviously and so it must be very unrealistic. Cabin and flags yes but not control room I think.