Fuel pretty tight - can i stop at heglio?

Antiacus · 01-15-08, 03:58 AM

Hi... I'm trying to return my type ii but it's looking like it's going to be awfully tight getting back. Any way i can stop at heglioland for fuel?

Thanks

3Jane · 01-15-08, 04:38 AM

You might be able to stop at Willhelmshaven, not sure if friendly ports are handled the same as resupply vessels in the game. I don't think Helgoland it's self works as a resupply point. Depending on how low your fuel is, you might still be able to make it to Kiel ( I presume that is where you are heading). There is a fairly good fuel margine even after you get the diesel has run out message.

Antiacus · 01-15-08, 06:59 AM

Thanks... I was able to make it back.

Jimbuna · 01-15-08, 07:11 AM

Don't forget, you can still use the electric motors, with or without the fuel (unrealistic I know.....but an option nonethe less)

bookworm_020 · 01-15-08, 05:04 PM

I think in real live that they had to use electric motors for going in reverse. So it's not all that unrealistic!

danurve · 01-15-08, 06:20 PM

I use friendly ports and resupply ships alot. I don't mind the Null grid because usually resupply because I want to return to a particular grid. And not kill 28 days to do it.

There are even ways to alter the torpedo loadout, although getting a mix gives you a challenge. The only thing left is the fuel. You get full tanks. Which imho is a bit unrealistic. So I may find myself setting a higher RPM to eat more fuel on purpose.

Pisces · 01-15-08, 07:08 PM

Hmm, how was the fuel situation for the germans in RL '39-'45 anyway. Where did they get their oil from?

Abd_von_Mumit · 01-15-08, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pisces

Hmm, how was the fuel situation for the germans in RL '39-'45 anyway. Where did they get their oil from?

I think the main outside source was Romania, but they also exploited any other sources they found, like in Germany, Poland, Russia and so on. The war with Russia and plans to get to Kaukaz was in a large part matter ot getting access to oil fields.

danurve · 01-15-08, 07:51 PM

That question would take a bit of history to rightfully explain. But supply ships early on had more reserves, where typicaly cows would fork over enough for patrols or return trips.

Pisces · 01-16-08, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by danurve

That question would take a bit of history to rightfully explain. But supply ships early on had more reserves, where typicaly cows would fork over enough for patrols or return trips.

Yeah I know, and didn't mean to hijack this thread. If only by a bit. My question was more regarding crude oil. I know about the milchcows acting as supply for subs. But that's not going to fuel the whole Kriegsmarine, let alone the rest of the war. So Abd_von_Mumit pretty much answered what I wanted to know, which countries etc. Thanks

seafarer · 01-16-08, 09:30 AM

And don't forget synthetic oil production. By 1945, some 50% or more of Germany's oil was from synthetic production (something like 36 million barrels, up from about 10 million barrels only 4-5 years earlier). They had hopes of pushing production to 60 million barrels by 1946, but Allied air power put an end to that dream.

Romania was the single biggest over-land supplier of non-synthetic oil.

Pisces · 01-16-08, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by seafarer

And don't forget synthetic oil production. By 1945, some 50% or more of Germany's oil was from synthetic production (something like 36 million barrels, up from about 10 million barrels only 4-5 years earlier). They had hopes of pushing production to 60 million barrels by 1946, but Allied air power put an end to that dream.

Romania was the single biggest over-land supplier of non-synthetic oil.

Wow, I didn't know there was such a thing as synthetic oil for energy production/propulsion etc. Lubrication an so on I knew. I guess I really need to dig into some history books now.

Sniper_Fox · 01-16-08, 10:49 AM

do you think kaleuns would force disabled merchants to fork over extra fuel in exchange for food or something?i dont personally think so... but its possible... however unlikely.

like pirates!

yarrrr somebody mod me a pirate ship

Heibges · 01-16-08, 06:52 PM

Refueling at sea involved special equipment, and took many hours, so it probably wasn't practical to do at sea with a captured enemy vessel.

Jimbuna · 01-17-08, 07:37 AM

You'd be suprised what a few hoses and a pump can achieve

01-15-08, 03:58 AM	#1
Antiacus Medic Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Springfield, Oregon Posts: 161 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Fuel pretty tight - can i stop at heglio? Hi... I'm trying to return my type ii but it's looking like it's going to be awfully tight getting back. Any way i can stop at heglioland for fuel? Thanks

01-15-08, 04:38 AM	#2
3Jane Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: York. Northern England. Posts: 1,004 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You might be able to stop at Willhelmshaven, not sure if friendly ports are handled the same as resupply vessels in the game. I don't think Helgoland it's self works as a resupply point. Depending on how low your fuel is, you might still be able to make it to Kiel ( I presume that is where you are heading). There is a fairly good fuel margine even after you get the diesel has run out message. __________________ Fate opposes me in vitality and morality, forced ever onward, burdened, always in shackles. So this very moment, without tarrying, pluck the quivering strings. Because fate punishes the one who plays, all lament with me. (http://hosted.filefront.com/KatherineRowan)

01-15-08, 07:11 AM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Don't forget, you can still use the electric motors, with or without the fuel (unrealistic I know.....but an option nonethe less) __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-15-08, 05:04 PM	#5
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I think in real live that they had to use electric motors for going in reverse. So it's not all that unrealistic! __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

01-15-08, 06:20 PM	#6
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	I use friendly ports and resupply ships alot. I don't mind the Null grid because usually resupply because I want to return to a particular grid. And not kill 28 days to do it. There are even ways to alter the torpedo loadout, although getting a mix gives you a challenge. The only thing left is the fuel. You get full tanks. Which imho is a bit unrealistic. So I may find myself setting a higher RPM to eat more fuel on purpose. __________________

01-15-08, 06:59 AM	#3
Antiacus Medic Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Springfield, Oregon Posts: 161 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Thanks... I was able to make it back.

01-15-08, 07:08 PM	#7
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Hmm, how was the fuel situation for the germans in RL '39-'45 anyway. Where did they get their oil from?

01-15-08, 07:51 PM	#9
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	That question would take a bit of history to rightfully explain. But supply ships early on had more reserves, where typicaly cows would fork over enough for patrols or return trips. __________________

01-16-08, 09:30 AM	#11
seafarer Commodore Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 622 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	And don't forget synthetic oil production. By 1945, some 50% or more of Germany's oil was from synthetic production (something like 36 million barrels, up from about 10 million barrels only 4-5 years earlier). They had hopes of pushing production to 60 million barrels by 1946, but Allied air power put an end to that dream. Romania was the single biggest over-land supplier of non-synthetic oil. __________________ My Father's ship, HMCS Waskesiu (K330), sank U257 on 02/24/1944 running SHIII-1.4 with GWX2.1 and SHIV-1.5 with TMO/RSRDC/PE3.3 under MS Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP1 ACER AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 400GB SATA HD Antec TruePower Trio 650watt PSU BFG GeForce 8800GT/OC 512MB VRAM, Samsung 216BW widescreen (1680x1050) LCD

01-16-08, 10:49 AM	#13
Sniper_Fox Engineer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North of Malta, shadowing your pretty little C3 Cargo! Posts: 212 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	do you think kaleuns would force disabled merchants to fork over extra fuel in exchange for food or something?i dont personally think so... but its possible... however unlikely. like pirates! yarrrr somebody mod me a pirate ship __________________ Im a one U-boat wolfpack. Ive hit the bottom of the Mediterranian at 250 metres in my VIIC and brought that babe back up, and still made it back to La Spezia. Ive sunk more destroyers than I have merchants...youll wish you never sailed into U-87s hunting grounds. When you pull into port, dont lull yourself into a false sense of security, your mines and subnets are just a petty challenge for my crew and I.

01-16-08, 06:52 PM	#14
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Refueling at sea involved special equipment, and took many hours, so it probably wasn't practical to do at sea with a captured enemy vessel. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

01-17-08, 07:37 AM	#15
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	You'd be suprised what a few hoses and a pump can achieve __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!