aircraft spotted, who cares

Laffertytig · 12-07-07, 03:17 PM

ok, just finished my 2nd patrol using RFB and RSRD and am wonderin my aircraft seem to useless. the zero's usually buzz me allowin me to shoot them down very easily or as happened last patrol, twin engined aircraft actually passed within 200 metres on a clear day and never even changed course. at 1st i thought maybe they were friendly, but surely not in the S china sea in june 42.

lovin everything else in the game but aircraft just seem very lame. were jap planes in ww2 so poor at attackin/spottin subs?

manucapo · 12-07-07, 03:34 PM

i find my aircraft to be very annoying because

80 percent of the time they drop the bombs 50 miles
but if you let your guard down too much
a direct hit and your dead
and if you dont save (like me) it can get very annoying
so it kinda forces you to go down everytime
and as far as i know in real life subs sank all the time when aircraft where inbound
and only used the gun in extreme cases

so if you want to take the gamble go ahead
it depends on how you like to play

tater · 12-07-07, 03:41 PM

I always pull the plug when aircraft are spotted, that's what RL subs did.

-Pv- · 12-07-07, 05:04 PM

As tater implied. WWII was the 1st war were air power began to be the deciding factory in warfare. Aircraft were the biggest threat. Not changed that much today. Aircraft are still the biggest threat for modern subs.
-Pv-

AVGWarhawk · 12-07-07, 05:41 PM

The kill ratio for the aircraft was not that great. Not to mention they were detected in most cases for the sub to dive. At any rate, the aircraft can be crafty. Sure, hang out on the surface and hope they do not strike home! I prefer to dive.

Ducimus · 12-07-07, 05:42 PM

I don't just dive, i crash dive.

jazman · 12-07-07, 05:45 PM

All it takes is one lucky hit and you're dead. If you're playing Dead is Dead, you crash dive.

tater · 12-07-07, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

I don't just dive, i crash dive.

Yeah, those 45m depth setting air dropped DCs come as a rude surprise, don't they

tater

Ducimus · 12-07-07, 06:44 PM

Among other things. :rotfl:

jazman · 12-07-07, 07:22 PM

I was cruising around the Java Sea at periscope depth in my S-tub in the daytime, and I guess a plane found me anyway, and blasted me. I was able to surface, but the prop shafts were gone, so I had to scuttle the boat and swim to captivity.

Factor · 12-07-07, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazman

so I had to scuttle the boat and swim to captivity.

where you were swiftly beheaded

Rockin Robbins · 12-07-07, 08:38 PM

I keep on the surface until the plane is 5 miles out and submerge in a leisurely manner until they pass. In practice I dive to 100' for four minutes, come to radar depth to check out the situation, if the plane is now moving away (it is), I surface and continue on my way. I never see planes. I detect them on radar.

It's very important that they don't see you or they call in their buddies and have a party at your expense.

Laffertytig · 12-07-07, 09:53 PM

ha yeah i get all the, just dive and pretend it realistic stuff, but why would a plane pass within 200 metres and just fly on?

im lookin upon this as constructive comment, have any of u mod gods worked on the aircraft AI? its not a major gripe but u have to admit it it a little weird!

tater · 12-07-07, 09:59 PM

To be fair, I've had some weird stuff with planes sometimes. I test a mod with planes that attack, and bomb the poop out of me, then load up a campaign, and have every single plane fly past without blinking.

Dunno.

tater

Ducimus · 12-07-07, 10:03 PM

I have the exact opposite problem. Ive noticed post patch, that the planes are able to see alot deeper then i had originally set them to. Only reason i didnt adjust it, is the radius of their ablity to see submerged objects *feels* relatively small when you take their speed into account.

12-07-07, 03:17 PM	#1
Laffertytig Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 757 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	aircraft spotted, who cares ok, just finished my 2nd patrol using RFB and RSRD and am wonderin my aircraft seem to useless. the zero's usually buzz me allowin me to shoot them down very easily or as happened last patrol, twin engined aircraft actually passed within 200 metres on a clear day and never even changed course. at 1st i thought maybe they were friendly, but surely not in the S china sea in june 42. lovin everything else in the game but aircraft just seem very lame. were jap planes in ww2 so poor at attackin/spottin subs?

12-07-07, 05:41 PM	#5
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	The kill ratio for the aircraft was not that great. Not to mention they were detected in most cases for the sub to dive. At any rate, the aircraft can be crafty. Sure, hang out on the surface and hope they do not strike home! I prefer to dive. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-07-07, 05:45 PM	#7
jazman Commander Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crush Depth Posts: 449 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	All it takes is one lucky hit and you're dead. If you're playing Dead is Dead, you crash dive. __________________ "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -- Chesterton

12-07-07, 07:22 PM	#10
jazman Commander Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crush Depth Posts: 449 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	I was cruising around the Java Sea at periscope depth in my S-tub in the daytime, and I guess a plane found me anyway, and blasted me. I was able to surface, but the prop shafts were gone, so I had to scuttle the boat and swim to captivity. __________________ "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -- Chesterton

12-07-07, 08:38 PM	#12
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	aircraft? I keep on the surface until the plane is 5 miles out and submerge in a leisurely manner until they pass. In practice I dive to 100' for four minutes, come to radar depth to check out the situation, if the plane is now moving away (it is), I surface and continue on my way. I never see planes. I detect them on radar. It's very important that they don't see you or they call in their buddies and have a party at your expense. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

12-07-07, 03:34 PM	#2
manucapo Gunner Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 100 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	i find my aircraft to be very annoying because 80 percent of the time they drop the bombs 50 miles but if you let your guard down too much a direct hit and your dead and if you dont save (like me) it can get very annoying so it kinda forces you to go down everytime and as far as i know in real life subs sank all the time when aircraft where inbound and only used the gun in extreme cases so if you want to take the gamble go ahead it depends on how you like to play

12-07-07, 03:41 PM	#3
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I always pull the plug when aircraft are spotted, that's what RL subs did.

12-07-07, 05:04 PM	#4
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	As tater implied. WWII was the 1st war were air power began to be the deciding factory in warfare. Aircraft were the biggest threat. Not changed that much today. Aircraft are still the biggest threat for modern subs. -Pv-

12-07-07, 05:42 PM	#6
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I don't just dive, i crash dive.

12-07-07, 06:44 PM	#9
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Among other things. :rotfl:

12-07-07, 09:53 PM	#13
Laffertytig Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 757 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	ha yeah i get all the, just dive and pretend it realistic stuff, but why would a plane pass within 200 metres and just fly on? im lookin upon this as constructive comment, have any of u mod gods worked on the aircraft AI? its not a major gripe but u have to admit it it a little weird!

12-07-07, 09:59 PM	#14
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	To be fair, I've had some weird stuff with planes sometimes. I test a mod with planes that attack, and bomb the poop out of me, then load up a campaign, and have every single plane fly past without blinking. Dunno. tater

12-07-07, 10:03 PM	#15
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I have the exact opposite problem. Ive noticed post patch, that the planes are able to see alot deeper then i had originally set them to. Only reason i didnt adjust it, is the radius of their ablity to see submerged objects feels relatively small when you take their speed into account.