I think this cop is in trouble........

[AVGWarhawk]

Watch the video..............is he over his bounds with excessive force? I'm thinking yes.............

[stabiz]

Holy crap. This video made me furious. I hope someone can give us an update on what happens to Adolf Trooper after this outrage.

[Peto]

Looks like someone who'll be hustlin' corn nuts at the Pigly Wiggly in the future to me. What a P***k.

This is why one shouldn't trust the police. I'm not supprised at the officers behavior but I am outraged by it. The police officer should be in jail for assault.
Another good reason for an armed populace.

[AVGWarhawk]

I suspect he will be picking trash up along the same route he did this little number. All of this over a speeding ticket.

[Peto]

Yep. And the guy did have a right to know what he was signing, how fast he was going etc. Cops like this make the lives of good Policemen much more difficult.

Unfortunately, it seems there is an increase in more Rambo attitudes getting into law enforcement these days...

[AVGWarhawk]

I reviewed this again. After he is down, he asks why and the cop says.'You did not sign the ticket and did not follow my instructions.' Uh, not signing the ticket requires 50000 volts to pass throw your body? WTH? Not only that, the guy did turn around but had his head turned back asking what is wrong with him. Taser soon to follow.

Furthermore, if you listen closely the cop is getting aggressive with the driver the first time he approaches the car. You can hear it in his voice. This cop is a loose cannon and needs to be polishing the cruisers hub caps and kept away from guns/tasers.

[August]

Signing a traffic ticket is not an admission of guilt. It is a promise to either pay the fine or appear in court later on to answer the charge. Remember ,ALL violations of the law regardless of severity subject the perpetrator(s) to arrest by civil authority.

For that particular violation a signed promise to appear in court (or pay) is good enough for the police to justify releasing you on your own recognizance until then. On the other hand refusing to sign forces the cop to ensure your presence in court by arresting you.

Now as the cop attempts to arrest the guy, notice that he puts his hands in his pocket and begins moving back to his vehicle, maybe going for a gun or other weapon or maybe intending to drive away who knows? But by doing that he was resisting the cops attempt to arrest him which elevates the situation from a misdemeanor to a felony.

The sad thing about this is the guys own actions elevated the situation from probably just a warning.

Excessive force? Eh, easy for us to say when we're not the ones having to decide in a split second what to do.

Having said all that though, Utah cops suck.

[Peto]

He has to tell the guy what he is signing though. I wouldn't sign anything just because a policeman told me to.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by August

But by doing that he was resisting the cops attempt to arrest him which elevates the situation from a misdemeanor to a felony.

Tasers are not compliance devices. They are a less than lethal alternative to shooting someone. This cop was way over the line.

Back in 1991, my last speeding ticket, I was also asked to sign the summons. The officer explained that it was nothing more than a confirmation of issue. I still refused to sign the summons. The cop simply wrote in the place for my signature that I refused to sign. No out of the vehicle, no taser, no arrest.

[XabbaRus]

No rights were read or explanation. It is a clear case of abuse of power.

[jumpy]

And policemen wonder why the public call them pigs and have no trust in them.
I wouldn't piss on that guy if he was on fire.
"Tasers are not compliance devices" damn right, shame most policemen I've seen in these cases seem completely unaware of this fact. They are an alternative to lethal force - had that cop not had a tazer, would he have drawn his gun and shot the guy dead? You bet your arse he wouldn't have. Shooting a guy over a speeding ticket? No way. So how is tazering someone in the same situation any different? What if the guy had a pacemaker? Oh sorry judge the suspect refused to sign this bit of paper for speeding because I didn't explain the proceedure like I'm supposed to.
It's not the worst case I've seen by far, but that doesn't excuse it.

On more than one occasion I have been confronted by zealous policemen who clearly over steped the boundry of what is reasonable; in the UK you get what's called a 'producer' to attend a police station of your choice with the appropriate vehicle registration documents, insurance etc. I never carry these on the principal that they are too valuble to be left in a car or carried about in my back pocket. Yet because I have long hair and get stoped in the early hours of the morning I was considered guilty "look, I know you don't have insurance, so why not come clean now, it'll make it easier on you in the long run' - this from 2 cops whilst I am locked in the back of a squad car for half an hour whilst they tried to verbally trick me into 'fessing up'. They wern't very pleasant about it either. But what can you do?
That wouldn't happen these days with the vehicle check database we all know how infallible computers are... "but I have insurance and a license officer..." " Computer says nooo..." zzzztt! aargh!


As a child I was always brought up to respect the police, but these days I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I could spit. I learned, when I was old enough to understand such things, that 'respect' was something that had to be earned. Police these days seem to do very little to earn the respect of the public and they are supprised when they receive such open hostility from ordinary folk and criminals alike. It sure says a lot about the way things are these days. Sure they have a difficult, thankless job, but that's no reason to treat everybody like a criminal and assume guilt based on them being a copper and you being some poor mug joe public who has to cow-tow to them 'or else'.

At least the fellow getting the ticket wasn't this guy:


http://news.google.co.uk/news?q=polish+man+tasered+to+death+in+airport&hl=e n&safe=off&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&hs=Gld&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=news_result&resnum=4&ct=title



http://www.thestar.com/News/article/276565

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by waste gate

Back in 1991, my last speeding ticket, I was also asked to sign the summons. The officer explained that it was nothing more than a confirmation of issue. I still refused to sign the summons. The cop simply wrote in the place for my signature that I refused to sign. No out of the vehicle, no taser, no arrest.

Exactly! You can refuse to sign. Usually this is taken into consideration when you do arrive to court. Clearly abuse of power in my opinion. The man had his back turned. I believe this officer needs to be pulled from the streets. The new update is he is still working his beat on the same highway.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Exactly! You can refuse to sign. Usually this is taken into consideration when you do arrive to court. Clearly abuse of power in my opinion. The man had his back turned. I believe this officer needs to be pulled from the streets. The new update is he is still working his beat on the same highway.

Hell, I didn't go to court for it. I paid the fine (around $70 as I recall) and that was the end of it.

The guy should have yelled 'Don't tase me man'!!