A bit of a problem

manucapo · 11-04-07, 10:07 PM

ok ive got myself into a big problem, i was between borneo and java
and those are really shallow waters, and i get this report of a task force heading right for me (not for me , in my direction)
so i was in very shallow water and right infront of the task force, it was preety big
the biggest ive seen yet, they where going in two lines,
and i was right in the midlle ,
i waited, raised my periscope, worked out the bearing and speed on a heavy cruiser, and fired all my 4 torpedoes (im a class s), i hit 3 of them and it goes down
but now im trapped in shallow water right in the middle of an enemy task force

so what do you guys say i should do, try to sneak out at 1-3 speed, run flank speed for the next deep water, wich is not very far away,
or sink to the bottom and stay there.
id like to know what you guys think

Gunner · 11-04-07, 11:01 PM

Make a run for deep water, shallow waters will be your grave if you don't get out fast

SteamWake · 11-04-07, 11:03 PM

Disgression is the better part of valor.

The ability to recognize a suicide attempt is a good trait.

Then again... a save game and give it a shot could be fun

THE_MASK · 11-04-07, 11:14 PM

Make a run for it . Next time when in shallow water and a task force is approaching go like the clappers at a 90 degree angle away from them .

PapaG39 · 11-05-07, 03:02 AM

Ha ha... Hind sight is always 20 20...
Just head slowly for deep water or away from them. Try & keep your sub pointed directly away from the DD's if possible and quitely move away

If all else fails:

Our Farther Who Art in heaven.....

Rockin Robbins · 11-05-07, 06:27 AM

The word "run" and "S-Boat" do not belong in the same sentence. Even "run" and "submarine" don't belong in the same sentence. The task force is good for 30 knots. What are you going to do? If you surface for more speed you'll have 30 guns on you in 5 seconds. You can't outrun shells.

So if they know where you are they are going to catch you. You're stuck with weaving and dodging until you can get to deep water. You have enough battery power for that? And how many DD's are you dealing with. I know I can dodge two in my Balao. Never tangled with three at a time. But the sugar boat in the real war was somewhat of a death trap. Wasn't a healthy command for a sub skipper and they mostly prayed they'd survive to command a more capable boat.

But there's your only available stategy: evasion with deep water being your goal. Use your periscope (like they don't know where you are anyway!

) to gather more information on occasion. And remember, this isn't hell! You're collecting stories for the Subvets conventions after the war.

seafarer · 11-05-07, 08:02 AM

Last night, I took on a task force between Indonesia and Celebes in 1941 in water of similar depth, but I made sure to approach and attack from the flanks, not the front/inside :p Nailed two fleet carriers, and then snuck off at 130ft depth and 1-2 knots. A couple of DDs charged around and dropped some ash cans near me, but zero damage, and they quickly gave up and resumed course with the rest of the task force.

I'd suggest trying to creep away. Stay as deep as possible, silent running, and speed absolutely no more then 2 knots. All those ships above you are going to make it hard for the escort's sensors to pick you up, as well as constricting their way to search for you.

It's also been my experience that the escorts will usually not hang around looking for you too long if they don't make quick contact. They tend to not let the task force get too far ahead of them before they rejoin it.

Just sitting on the bottom seems usually a recipe for death, in my experience. You are certainly not hidden from active sonar there, so if they ping you, you are toast. Move, slowly, but move, and glue your ears to that hydrophone.

P.S. this was in the USS Saury, my new career's first command, originally out of Manila, but we can't go home there now

MorganThePirate · 11-05-07, 10:20 AM

Try for the deep water. Rig for silent running and set your speed at 1 knot. Try to zig zag and good luck. You'll live for another good fishing year.

Peto · 11-05-07, 10:30 AM

Deep water would be nice but if there's no way you can get there, try this (it's worked for me a couple times). Wait til they make a run and aren't pinging you. go to all stop and gently lay it on the bottom. You may have to survive another run but I've had them lose me and they stopped their engines and lay to listening. So--if they do that--stay where you are or they'll pick you up again.

None-the-less, You need a more than a rabbit's foot of luck...:hmm:

11-04-07, 10:07 PM	#1
manucapo Gunner Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 100 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	A bit of a problem ok ive got myself into a big problem, i was between borneo and java and those are really shallow waters, and i get this report of a task force heading right for me (not for me , in my direction) so i was in very shallow water and right infront of the task force, it was preety big the biggest ive seen yet, they where going in two lines, and i was right in the midlle , i waited, raised my periscope, worked out the bearing and speed on a heavy cruiser, and fired all my 4 torpedoes (im a class s), i hit 3 of them and it goes down but now im trapped in shallow water right in the middle of an enemy task force so what do you guys say i should do, try to sneak out at 1-3 speed, run flank speed for the next deep water, wich is not very far away, or sink to the bottom and stay there. id like to know what you guys think

11-04-07, 11:01 PM	#2
Gunner Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 177 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Make a run for deep water, shallow waters will be your grave if you don't get out fast __________________

11-05-07, 06:27 AM	#6
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Run? The word "run" and "S-Boat" do not belong in the same sentence. Even "run" and "submarine" don't belong in the same sentence. The task force is good for 30 knots. What are you going to do? If you surface for more speed you'll have 30 guns on you in 5 seconds. You can't outrun shells. So if they know where you are they are going to catch you. You're stuck with weaving and dodging until you can get to deep water. You have enough battery power for that? And how many DD's are you dealing with. I know I can dodge two in my Balao. Never tangled with three at a time. But the sugar boat in the real war was somewhat of a death trap. Wasn't a healthy command for a sub skipper and they mostly prayed they'd survive to command a more capable boat. But there's your only available stategy: evasion with deep water being your goal. Use your periscope (like they don't know where you are anyway!) to gather more information on occasion. And remember, this isn't hell! You're collecting stories for the Subvets conventions after the war. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

11-05-07, 08:02 AM	#7
seafarer Commodore Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 622 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Last night, I took on a task force between Indonesia and Celebes in 1941 in water of similar depth, but I made sure to approach and attack from the flanks, not the front/inside :p Nailed two fleet carriers, and then snuck off at 130ft depth and 1-2 knots. A couple of DDs charged around and dropped some ash cans near me, but zero damage, and they quickly gave up and resumed course with the rest of the task force. I'd suggest trying to creep away. Stay as deep as possible, silent running, and speed absolutely no more then 2 knots. All those ships above you are going to make it hard for the escort's sensors to pick you up, as well as constricting their way to search for you. It's also been my experience that the escorts will usually not hang around looking for you too long if they don't make quick contact. They tend to not let the task force get too far ahead of them before they rejoin it. Just sitting on the bottom seems usually a recipe for death, in my experience. You are certainly not hidden from active sonar there, so if they ping you, you are toast. Move, slowly, but move, and glue your ears to that hydrophone. P.S. this was in the USS Saury, my new career's first command, originally out of Manila, but we can't go home there now __________________ My Father's ship, HMCS Waskesiu (K330), sank U257 on 02/24/1944 running SHIII-1.4 with GWX2.1 and SHIV-1.5 with TMO/RSRDC/PE3.3 under MS Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP1 ACER AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 400GB SATA HD Antec TruePower Trio 650watt PSU BFG GeForce 8800GT/OC 512MB VRAM, Samsung 216BW widescreen (1680x1050) LCD

11-05-07, 10:20 AM	#8
MorganThePirate Mate Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: On battle stations in sunny AZ Posts: 54 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Gooooodddd Luckkkk..... Try for the deep water. Rig for silent running and set your speed at 1 knot. Try to zig zag and good luck. You'll live for another good fishing year.

11-04-07, 11:03 PM	#3
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Disgression is the better part of valor. The ability to recognize a suicide attempt is a good trait. Then again... a save game and give it a shot could be fun

11-04-07, 11:14 PM	#4
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Make a run for it . Next time when in shallow water and a task force is approaching go like the clappers at a 90 degree angle away from them .

11-05-07, 03:02 AM	#5
PapaG39 Frogman Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 297 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Ha ha... Hind sight is always 20 20... Just head slowly for deep water or away from them. Try & keep your sub pointed directly away from the DD's if possible and quitely move away If all else fails: Our Farther Who Art in heaven.....

11-05-07, 10:30 AM	#9
Peto Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The details of my life are quite inconsequential Posts: 1,049 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Deep water would be nice but if there's no way you can get there, try this (it's worked for me a couple times). Wait til they make a run and aren't pinging you. go to all stop and gently lay it on the bottom. You may have to survive another run but I've had them lose me and they stopped their engines and lay to listening. So--if they do that--stay where you are or they'll pick you up again. None-the-less, You need a more than a rabbit's foot of luck...:hmm: