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Old 05-16-07, 06:05 PM   #1
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Default Warming on hold.......cooling on the way?

The average temperature in April 2007 was 51.7° F. This was -0.3° F cooler than the 1901-2000 (20th century) average, the 47th coolest April in 113 years. The temperature trend for the period of record (1895 to present) is 0.1 degrees Fahrenheit per decade.

2.09 inches of precipitation fell in April. This was -0.34 inches less than the 1901-2000 average, the 30th driest such month on record. The precipitation trend for the period of record (1895 to present) is 0.01 inches per decade.



http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/...h/cag3/na.html
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Old 05-16-07, 06:17 PM   #2
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Well bully for you guys.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...8/eaheat28.xml
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Old 05-16-07, 06:22 PM   #3
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Isn't it amasing how the earth cools itself without the intervention of humans?!!!

If this isn't evidence of how human activity isn't the cause for any warming, what is?
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Old 05-16-07, 06:25 PM   #4
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I remember that back in the 1970's these same "scientists" were predicting a new ice age.

I think that science still has a lot to learn about the planet before being able to make these types of conclusions
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Old 05-16-07, 06:28 PM   #5
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If this isn't evidence of how human activity isn't the cause for any warming, what is?
It's not.

It is evidence that April's temperature was slightly under the average.
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Old 05-16-07, 06:32 PM   #6
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If this isn't evidence of how human activity isn't the cause for any warming, what is?
It's not.

It is evidence that April's temperature was slightly under the average.
You didn't answer the question you just stated the obvious.
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Old 05-16-07, 06:36 PM   #7
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From your posts in this thread, the obvious needs stating.

We'd need something more than a small monthly temperature drop in a single country that occupies a small area of the globe.
Possibly if we could get a body of academics and scientists together to examine the problem, and then they could give us their opinion.
(hang on, we already did that)
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Old 05-16-07, 06:43 PM   #8
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From your posts in this thread, the obvious needs stating.

We'd need something more than a small monthly temperature drop in a single country that occupies a small area of the globe.
Possibly if we could get a body of academics and scientists together to examine the problem, and then they could give us their opinion.
(hang on, we already did that)
That is my point. Look at robbo180265 post. One offsets the other. The planet doesn't give a rats ass what people do. Not in a month, not in a decade, not in a century.

The hubris of the global warming crowd should give every 'thinking' individual pause.
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Old 05-16-07, 06:47 PM   #9
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That is my point. Look at robbo180265 post. One offsets the other.
No, waste_gate, they don't offset each other. Taking these two posts as offsets....

1 - Robbo's post - The warmest April in 350 years. Number One out of three hundred and fifty.

2 - your post - The 47th coolest April in 113 years. Number 47 out of 113. That's close to the midpoint.

That's not an offset, and you know it isn't.

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The planet doesn't give a rats ass what people do. Not in a month, not in a decade, not in a century.
Evidence suggests otherwise, dude.


EDIT - may as well hoe in on the OP data. Posting temperature and trying to link to global warming..

Temperature != Climate

Also weather is not equal to climate, and the chaotic and varying character of local weather means that nothing can be drawn from it...
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Old 05-16-07, 06:58 PM   #10
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That is my point. Look at robbo180265 post. One offsets the other.
No, waste_gate, they don't offset each other. Taking these two posts as offsets....

1 - Robbo's post - The warmest April in 350 years. Number One out of three hundred and fifty.

2 - your post - The 47th coolest April in 113 years. Number 47 out of 113. That's close to the midpoint.

That's not an offset, and you know it isn't.

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The planet doesn't give a rats ass what people do. Not in a month, not in a decade, not in a century.
Evidence suggests otherwise, dude.

So what you are saying is that the Brits have been keeping 'acurate' tempurature records since 1657? Since Johnstown? They didn't even know how to measure longitude.

Come on.
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Old 05-16-07, 07:07 PM   #11
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Two things

1 - be quiet

2 - Spell accurate accurately.

Ok, let's not trust the brits. Cromwell and all that.
They've been fluffing the temp records since the 1600's just to make some money off this global warming hoax. Damn socialists.

Here's data from NASA. If you trust the NOAA, I think you'll be OK with NASA



Note that there are fluctuations, but a definite trend.
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Old 05-16-07, 07:20 PM   #12
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Two things

1 - be quiet

2 - Spell accurate accurately.

Ok, let's not trust the brits. Cromwell and all that.
They've been fluffing the temp records since the 1600's just to make some money off this global warming hoax. Damn socialists.

Here's data from NASA. If you trust the NOAA, I think you'll be OK with NASA



Note that there are fluctuations, but a definite trend.
You my friend are not in any position to tell me or anyone else to be quiet.
This may go in hells kitchen with the westies (gangsters) you hang with, but not me. I don't want to hear that again from you or anyone else.

Acurate, accurate, spelling isn't really an issue here is it?

Your graph doesn't go back 350 years, and it isn't British in origin.

So the 350 year thing is wrong.
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Old 05-16-07, 07:43 PM   #13
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You my friend are not in any position to tell me or anyone else to be quiet.
This may go in hells kitchen with the westies (gangsters) you hang with, but not me. I don't want to hear that again from you or anyone else.
And you know what they call uh...a Quarter Pounder with Cheese in Paris?
They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with Cheese?

Nah man they got the metric system, they wouldn't know what the f*ck a quarter pounder is
Then what do they call it?
They call it, uh, Royale with Cheese
Royale with Cheese?
That's right
What do they call a Big Mac?
A Big Mac is a Big Mac, but they call it Le Big Mac
Le Big Mac, what do they call a Whopper?
I don't know, I didn't go into Burger King.....

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Acurate, accurate, spelling isn't really an issue here is it?
I was going for some wry humour. But that's OK, on with the thread!

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Your graph doesn't go back 350 years, and it isn't British in origin.

So the 350 year thing is wrong.
Read my post, I stated that I wasn't going any further down the British road. I'm terribly sorry if that wasn't clear enough, I'll say more than "Ok, let's not trust the brits." next time. Again, i was trying to answer in a humorous tone, and it seems I shouldn't give up my day job with the gangsters.
The graph was in answer to your general theme, which was that the planet doesn't care what we do. Evidence suggests that she does.
A minor drop in monthly average temp is not evidence that she doesn't.

Actually, Hell's kitchen is lovely these days, tres chic! 9th Avenue, can't beat it!
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Old 05-16-07, 08:05 PM   #14
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You just don't understand waste gate: it doesn't matter. Hot, cold, dry, wet, whatever, it's irrelevant. Global Warming warms AND cools, it washes AND dries, sometimes at the same time and at the same place. Take the example of the rain forest. It was global warming that created the rain forest, now global warming will destroy it and turn it into a desert.
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Old 05-16-07, 08:07 PM   #15
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I spent many days/months/years in NYC Tchocky.
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