GWX "SSS" radio messages?

prowler3 · 10-31-08, 09:59 AM

I am in my 2nd GWX2.1 patrol, early September 1939, and I receive quite a few radio messages..."SSS, SS Athena, N45.34, W110.34" (just an example from poor memory

). Are these just "immersion" messages...or do they mean something to me? If they mean something important...I'm gonna need a tool to find latitude/longitude on the nav map!

Also, while I'm on radio messages, I can't remember when I started getting convoy contact reports on the radio back in my SH3/WAC days, 2 years ago, but I haven't seen one yet with GWX2.1. Too early in the war, yet...or a GWX mod for reality?

I'm just about there, gang. Found most of the tools I've been looking/hoping for, made some changes to "reality" (full moon overhead...but can't see my hand in front of my face?? :p ) and I am thinking about WB's GWX 2.1 Mission Orders Lite. (I can't take much useless chattering :p ).

I owe it all to your help and I've gotten here in a considerably shorter time than my last venture into SH3...Thank you all!

If you think that means I'm done asking questions...:p .

Vic

Graf Paper · 10-31-08, 10:28 AM

Glad you're getting sorted out, prowler!

SH3 is one of a handful of games of which I never get tired.

Most all the radio messages in GWX are for immersion purposes and the latitude/longitude are part of that. The convoy reports are generally real, if they come from BdU. Contact reports of actions against shipping sent directly from u-boats to BdU are just there to keep you from feeling as if you're waging a one-man war against the entire merchant marine.

Wreford-Brown has made more than a few excellent radio mods. If you like "getting in on the action", I highly recommend his Mission Orders 2.0 mod that gives radio updates on all the major actions of the u-boat war. His Lehmann News Network mod reports information on the war in general as well as the u-boat events, a really nice all-in-one package. And there are also lite versions of some of his radio mods for kaeluns that dislike all the chatter.

I hope to join you on the high seas soon. I'm just feeling a bit overwhelmed by the loooooong list of mods I have to set up in GWX 2.1, to which I just upgraded.

Good luck and sink 'em all!

prowler3 · 10-31-08, 06:05 PM

Thanks, Graf Paper. S-I-G-H...you speak of mods...I am in the middle of reinstalling everything. I was trying to use the Thomsens_Depth_Gauge mod and also the Seabed_Repair_Mod...and may have gotten a bit impatient by adding both at the same time? I know, I know...what was I thinking?

Anywho...either one of them is not compatible with SH3/GWX2.1...or I "fat fingered" something. I could not get SH3 to load after that. Tried disabling the above mods...no joy. So...I've reinstalled, remodded (without the above mentioned) and am sitting here praying that it will run when I fnish writing this.

Kpt. Lehmann · 10-31-08, 08:39 PM

If I recall correctly, "SSS" was a distress signal that meant the sender had been attacked by a submarine.

We included quite a few messages (such as that one) derived from real life communications for the sake of immersion. A fair bit of those messages line up with campaign events in GWX though.

prowler3 · 10-31-08, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by prowler3

Thanks, Graf Paper. S-I-G-H...you speak of mods...I am in the middle of reinstalling everything. I was trying to use the Thomsens_Depth_Gauge mod and also the Seabed_Repair_Mod...and may have gotten a bit impatient by adding both at the same time? I know, I know...what was I thinking?

Anywho...either one of them is not compatible with SH3/GWX2.1...or I "fat fingered" something. I could not get SH3 to load after that. Tried disabling the above mods...no joy. So...I've reinstalled, remodded (without the above mentioned) and am sitting here praying that it will run when I fnish writing this.

Apparently my standing with the "PC Gaming Gods" is not good. I'm trying to figure out what kind of sacrifice I should offer (Xbox 360, lit on fire, atop the alter...after pulling out it's CPU???). I am now in the process of doing the whole SH3/GWX/Mods thingy...one painful step at a time. I've gotten all my prefered GWX mods enabled, SH3Cmdr up and running, WB's renown and Mission Orders mods, the "Bugfix" and SH3_Mod_MarhkimovsOceanMadness_v2...all allowing SH3 to load without issues. So...I haven't got to the "problem" yet. Next will be the installation of the default "tails" and "colors" for contacts on the maps...I know it's not real, but...it's how I play. After that the SH3_Bearing_Overlay_3.0. That should get me back to where I was before the "Problems" started. I'm not feeling any enthusiasm for trying the Seabed_Repair_Mod or the Thomsens_Depth_Gauge mod, at this time...it's just taken me SOOooo long to recover. Again, for everyone reading this post, AFAIK there is NOTHING wrong with these 2 mods...there may be many things wrong with the operator (me)

. I installed these after a 12 hour night shift...and a few beers...so...go figure.

Graf Paper · 10-31-08, 10:10 PM

I know just what you mean, prowler!

It does make you want to grind your teeth until they smoke when you've just spent an hour picking out and adding your mods into JSGME only to discover you made some mistake and rendered your entire SH3/GWX installation completely FUBAR.

I think your error was with the Seabed mod. It has to be set up in a certain order with LRT 2.02. The latest version of JSGME (2.2.0.120), will show mods that cause conflicts by graying them out.

Sometimes I feel as though I'm drowning on my conning tower in one of those legendary North Atlantic storms after wading through countless readmes listing the myriad steps on how to install the mods. Couple that with having hundreds of mods to choose from and my eyeballs are threatening to crawl into my skull and choke my already addled brain!

I've promised myself that...once I get this mess sorted and working...I'll wrap it all together into an installer with Inno Setup and burn it to a DVD for future, one-click setup.

If push comes to shove and we get burned out trying to get our mods set up, I suppose we could always do some multi-player with just GWX 2.1 to get our SH3 fix until we feel up to tackling this job again.

@Lehmann :

I think that whoever researched and worked on the radio messages for GWX ought to be congratulated and given a monument for their dedicated brilliance. Having my Time Compression interrupted by radio traffic has never been a bother for me. Quite the opposite. I look forward to hearing about events of the war and the GWX radio mod does indeed give me more of the feeling that I'm "there".

GWX's messages that led up to Operation Weserubung especially stand out in my mind. The sucessive transmissions built up the drama and definitely gave you a heads up something was going to happen. When the time came I followed the order to drop what I was doing and proceed to the combat area. I had so much fun with that! Very well done indeed!

My solution for people who complain that messages stamped with their u-boat number kills the immersion factor...use SH3 Commander to change your u-boat number to one that was historically not used. It only takes a minute or two to pop over to u-boat.net and eyeball the list of boat numbers.

10-31-08, 09:59 AM	#1
prowler3 XO Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado, for now. Any RED State, ASAP. Posts: 401 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	GWX "SSS" radio messages? I am in my 2nd GWX2.1 patrol, early September 1939, and I receive quite a few radio messages..."SSS, SS Athena, N45.34, W110.34" (just an example from poor memory ). Are these just "immersion" messages...or do they mean something to me? If they mean something important...I'm gonna need a tool to find latitude/longitude on the nav map! Also, while I'm on radio messages, I can't remember when I started getting convoy contact reports on the radio back in my SH3/WAC days, 2 years ago, but I haven't seen one yet with GWX2.1. Too early in the war, yet...or a GWX mod for reality? I'm just about there, gang. Found most of the tools I've been looking/hoping for, made some changes to "reality" (full moon overhead...but can't see my hand in front of my face?? :p ) and I am thinking about WB's GWX 2.1 Mission Orders Lite. (I can't take much useless chattering :p ). I owe it all to your help and I've gotten here in a considerably shorter time than my last venture into SH3...Thank you all! If you think that means I'm done asking questions...:p . Vic

10-31-08, 10:28 AM	#2
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	Glad you're getting sorted out, prowler! SH3 is one of a handful of games of which I never get tired. Most all the radio messages in GWX are for immersion purposes and the latitude/longitude are part of that. The convoy reports are generally real, if they come from BdU. Contact reports of actions against shipping sent directly from u-boats to BdU are just there to keep you from feeling as if you're waging a one-man war against the entire merchant marine. Wreford-Brown has made more than a few excellent radio mods. If you like "getting in on the action", I highly recommend his *Mission Orders 2.0* mod that gives radio updates on all the major actions of the u-boat war. His Lehmann News Network mod reports information on the war in general as well as the u-boat events, a really nice all-in-one package. And there are also lite versions of some of his radio mods for kaeluns that dislike all the chatter. I hope to join you on the high seas soon. I'm just feeling a bit overwhelmed by the loooooong list of mods I have to set up in GWX 2.1, to which I just upgraded. Good luck and sink 'em all! __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

10-31-08, 08:39 PM	#4
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,993 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	If I recall correctly, "SSS" was a distress signal that meant the sender had been attacked by a submarine. We included quite a few messages (such as that one) derived from real life communications for the sake of immersion. A fair bit of those messages line up with campaign events in GWX though. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

10-31-08, 10:10 PM	#6
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	I know just what you mean, prowler! It does make you want to grind your teeth until they smoke when you've just spent an hour picking out and adding your mods into JSGME only to discover you made some mistake and rendered your entire SH3/GWX installation completely FUBAR. I think your error was with the Seabed mod. It has to be set up in a certain order with LRT 2.02. The latest version of JSGME (2.2.0.120), will show mods that cause conflicts by graying them out. Sometimes I feel as though I'm drowning on my conning tower in one of those legendary North Atlantic storms after wading through countless readmes listing the myriad steps on how to install the mods. Couple that with having hundreds of mods to choose from and my eyeballs are threatening to crawl into my skull and choke my already addled brain! I've promised myself that...once I get this mess sorted and working...I'll wrap it all together into an installer with Inno Setup and burn it to a DVD for future, one-click setup. If push comes to shove and we get burned out trying to get our mods set up, I suppose we could always do some multi-player with just GWX 2.1 to get our SH3 fix until we feel up to tackling this job again. @Lehmann : I think that whoever researched and worked on the radio messages for GWX ought to be congratulated and given a monument for their dedicated brilliance. Having my Time Compression interrupted by radio traffic has never been a bother for me. Quite the opposite. I look forward to hearing about events of the war and the GWX radio mod does indeed give me more of the feeling that I'm "there". GWX's messages that led up to Operation Weserubung especially stand out in my mind. The sucessive transmissions built up the drama and definitely gave you a heads up something was going to happen. When the time came I followed the order to drop what I was doing and proceed to the combat area. I had so much fun with that! Very well done indeed! My solution for people who complain that messages stamped with their u-boat number kills the immersion factor...use SH3 Commander to change your u-boat number to one that was historically not used. It only takes a minute or two to pop over to u-boat.net and eyeball the list of boat numbers. __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me. Last edited by Graf Paper; 11-01-08 at 12:06 AM.

10-31-08, 06:05 PM	#3
prowler3 XO Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado, for now. Any RED State, ASAP. Posts: 401 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Thanks, Graf Paper. S-I-G-H...you speak of mods...I am in the middle of reinstalling everything. I was trying to use the Thomsens_Depth_Gauge mod and also the Seabed_Repair_Mod...and may have gotten a bit impatient by adding both at the same time? I know, I know...what was I thinking? Anywho...either one of them is not compatible with SH3/GWX2.1...or I "fat fingered" something. I could not get SH3 to load after that. Tried disabling the above mods...no joy. So...I've reinstalled, remodded (without the above mentioned) and am sitting here praying that it will run when I fnish writing this.