Stuck at bottom

BootsmanBoof · 10-25-07, 05:21 AM

Firstly, hello all! I only discovered this game a few weeks back and bought a few others at the same time but haven't even touched them. This game is brilliant, and GWX has to be the best mod made for any game, ever.

That having been said, I am still fairly poor at captaining a sub, and have a minor problem. My current boat, U-48 (VIIB) is doomed. She is lying at the bottom, 70km south of Plymouth at 80m depth, having been depth-charged to blazes. 11 crew dead, electric motors destroyed, and no compressed air

, but enough oxygen left for many hours of claustrophobic soul-searching and preparations for death

. French and Brit destroyers are circling above but have stopped unloading DCs - I guess they ran out. The odd plane comes by and drops a few but they keep missing by a long-shot. So I am just sitting there, waiting for the oxygen to run out, and can't compress time more than 8x due to enemy proximity. This has been going on for 4 hours or more of gametime.

I am using "Commander" and want my captain's profile to correctly reflect his short career (3 Jan, 1940) - he did OK for a noob - 4 patrols for about 60,000 tons. I know he and his crew are dead men, but what is the best way to end this?

What happens if I "exit patrol"? I am guessing he will miraculously make it back to base, and that would be cheating........

Use "Commander" to up the time compression? And why don't the destroyers move along if they have no DC's left?

I am unsure, folks, as I have never been in this position before (hopefully the first and last time).

Great site BTW, any responses will be viewed with appreciation......

Cheers,

boofhead

siber · 10-25-07, 05:26 AM

Welcome!

I think that if you exit patrol at that point, it'll say that your u-boat was lost with all hands. But to be fair, it sounds like you had it coming... You've taken a pasting.

STAY OUT OF DER KANAL!!! Going round the North of Scotland takes longer but gets you there alive!

BootsmanBoof · 10-25-07, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by siber

I think that if you exit patrol at that point, it'll say that your u-boat was lost with all hands.

Hmmm. If that'll update my man's profile it might be the best option....

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But to be fair, it sounds like you had it coming... You've taken a pasting. STAY OUT OF DER KANAL!!! Going round the North of Scotland takes longer but gets you there alive!

LOL I usually do but I attempted my first enemy port attack at Plymouth (having gone around the long way) and got right up close to the docks - within about 1km. I was never pinged at all. Then I got cocky and thought that as I had made the port incursion successfully the Channel should be no problem going home

I didn't even get into the Channel proper, really.....

EDIT: Thanks for the kind welcomes, guys!

I'm using GWX. And yeah, I have been destroyed in the Channel 3 times in 3 attempts. You'd think I would learn....

Torplexed · 10-25-07, 06:18 AM

That's why the Germans captured France. So, they wouldn't be tempted to take that Channel shortcut anymore.

Getting to the North Atlantic convoy lanes does get easier come the summer of 1940. Welcome aboard!

baggygreen · 10-25-07, 06:56 AM

Dont listen to what everyone says about the channel... its EASY!!!

/thumbing my nose at gwx

I've done it a few times, but never really had any problems - I stick to the south rather than going through tthe middle. Only once have i gone up north with GWX and that was to intercept a convoy. Down south theres not many problems at all... Although i've seen on here the number of mines which are around the place.

Either way, I do it only if im keen for some risk, its normally too shallow to do safely anyway.

3Jane · 10-25-07, 07:15 AM

I always used the Channel until I was transfered from Willhelmshaven to Lorient. Stay 3000 metres off Calais, far enough out to avoid the mines and being spotted by the armed trawlers in the port and close enough inshore to miss the others further out. Run decks awash (7m) in the full dark, whilst the French coast is still hostile. After that when it is in German hands, still transit at night but you can now do it fully surfaced. If you calculate you arrival time off Calais right, you can make it through well before dawn. Then silent running through the daylight hours sticking to the south of the channel. Not too close inshore where it is too shallow. You will probably get contact reports showing convoys in the channel, but I alwas ignore them. It's way too shallow for that kind of thing.
I would wait until the last minute before exiting your mission, the weather might turn bad and the destroyers could loose their fix on you, if your very lucky. A quick heroic surface dash in the dark might pull it off, or not. Never mind about the dead crew, as soon as you surface just toss them overboard like dead mackerel.:p

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr · 10-25-07, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by siber

STAY OUT OF DER KANAL!!!

you said anything ?

U49 · 10-25-07, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaleu. Jochen Mohr

you said anything ?

Well, maybe that trip didn't make much in numbers of tons sunk, but just from seeing it, I would NOT call that a BORING trip

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr · 10-25-07, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by U49

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Originally Posted by Kaleu. Jochen Mohr

you said anything ?

Well, maybe that trip didn't make much in numbers of tons sunk, but just from seeing it, I would NOT call that a BORING trip

for me it actualy was

same with gibraltar...

need new danger in SH3....

Sailor Steve · 10-25-07, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaleu. Jochen Mohr

[need new danger in SH3....

GWX + 100%

That should be danger enough for anyone.

NiclDoe · 10-25-07, 05:28 AM

Yes if you exit you just get teleported back to base alive. its in the stock version and if your still using stock go to the mods section of the forums and pick out some mods to use.
By the Way Welcome abord Boofhead!

Sink them all with the best of luck!

amd please stay out of Der Kanal its the worest place to be and you wil have a 99.999997 chance of being dead.

Rykaird · 10-25-07, 12:54 PM

First off, I have to congratulate you on describing your situation as a "minor problem":

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Originally Posted by BootsmanBoof

She is lying at the bottom, 70km south of Plymouth at 80m depth, having been depth-charged to blazes. 11 crew dead, electric motors destroyed, and no compressed air.

Now if that's a minor problem, you definitely have the cool head required to be a great U-Boat captain.

You may not be able to recover. The boat can only rise one of two ways - either through the use of compressed air, or by using the electric motors and pushing water over the planes. So if the electric motors are totally destroyed - there are no repairs possible - then I'm afraid you will become nothing more than a faded photograph of a smiling, promising young Kaleun that never returned from the sea, like so many others.

As for your TC issue, that can be fixed with SH3 Commander. You can adjust max TC limits by each individual circumstance. For example, I have upped max TC while in 3D to 128, which lets me lie down in the Captain's bunk, listen to old German war tunes on the grammophone, and wait for my sonarman to holler out a hydrophone contact, while still enjoying a reasonable time compression.

3Jane · 10-25-07, 03:02 PM

The possitive buoyancy might evenualy raise the boat to PD, if the remaining oxygen lasts long enough. But still submerged, so the diesels would be out of reach. There is absolutely no compressed air left, at all.

DirtyACE · 10-25-07, 03:08 PM

I navigate the chanel every so often also and the best way I've found to do it is to travel submerged during daytime and on the surface by night. Whenever you have spoted a warship go submerged and silent running. It has so far worked like a charm for me.

Stealth Hunter · 10-25-07, 03:42 PM

I was going to leave your crew a candle, but... since you were stupid enough to try and pull something like this on Plymouth, NO CANDLES FOR YOU!! YOU'VE COST THE GERMAN KRIEGSMARINE A PERFECT U-BOAT AND A FULL CREW!

10-25-07, 05:21 AM	#1
BootsmanBoof Mate Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 56 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Stuck at bottom Firstly, hello all! I only discovered this game a few weeks back and bought a few others at the same time but haven't even touched them. This game is brilliant, and GWX has to be the best mod made for any game, ever. That having been said, I am still fairly poor at captaining a sub, and have a minor problem. My current boat, U-48 (VIIB) is doomed. She is lying at the bottom, 70km south of Plymouth at 80m depth, having been depth-charged to blazes. 11 crew dead, electric motors destroyed, and no compressed air , but enough oxygen left for many hours of claustrophobic soul-searching and preparations for death . French and Brit destroyers are circling above but have stopped unloading DCs - I guess they ran out. The odd plane comes by and drops a few but they keep missing by a long-shot. So I am just sitting there, waiting for the oxygen to run out, and can't compress time more than 8x due to enemy proximity. This has been going on for 4 hours or more of gametime. I am using "Commander" and want my captain's profile to correctly reflect his short career (3 Jan, 1940) - he did OK for a noob - 4 patrols for about 60,000 tons. I know he and his crew are dead men, but what is the best way to end this? What happens if I "exit patrol"? I am guessing he will miraculously make it back to base, and that would be cheating........ Use "Commander" to up the time compression? And why don't the destroyers move along if they have no DC's left? I am unsure, folks, as I have never been in this position before (hopefully the first and last time). Great site BTW, any responses will be viewed with appreciation...... Cheers, boofhead

10-25-07, 05:26 AM	#2
siber Planesman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Salford, Manchester, UK Posts: 182 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Welcome! I think that if you exit patrol at that point, it'll say that your u-boat was lost with all hands. But to be fair, it sounds like you had it coming... You've taken a pasting. STAY OUT OF DER KANAL!!! Going round the North of Scotland takes longer but gets you there alive! __________________ Using GWX 3.0 at 100% realism, OLC's 'Ubermod' & Torpdamagefinal

10-25-07, 06:18 AM	#4
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	That's why the Germans captured France. So, they wouldn't be tempted to take that Channel shortcut anymore. Getting to the North Atlantic convoy lanes does get easier come the summer of 1940. Welcome aboard! __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

10-25-07, 07:15 AM	#6
3Jane Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: York. Northern England. Posts: 1,004 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I always used the Channel until I was transfered from Willhelmshaven to Lorient. Stay 3000 metres off Calais, far enough out to avoid the mines and being spotted by the armed trawlers in the port and close enough inshore to miss the others further out. Run decks awash (7m) in the full dark, whilst the French coast is still hostile. After that when it is in German hands, still transit at night but you can now do it fully surfaced. If you calculate you arrival time off Calais right, you can make it through well before dawn. Then silent running through the daylight hours sticking to the south of the channel. Not too close inshore where it is too shallow. You will probably get contact reports showing convoys in the channel, but I alwas ignore them. It's way too shallow for that kind of thing. I would wait until the last minute before exiting your mission, the weather might turn bad and the destroyers could loose their fix on you, if your very lucky. A quick heroic surface dash in the dark might pull it off, or not. Never mind about the dead crew, as soon as you surface just toss them overboard like dead mackerel.:p __________________ Fate opposes me in vitality and morality, forced ever onward, burdened, always in shackles. So this very moment, without tarrying, pluck the quivering strings. Because fate punishes the one who plays, all lament with me. (http://hosted.filefront.com/KatherineRowan) Last edited by 3Jane; 10-25-07 at 09:55 AM.

10-25-07, 05:28 AM	#11
NiclDoe Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In the Air or hiding from Black Swans Posts: 760 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Yes if you exit you just get teleported back to base alive. its in the stock version and if your still using stock go to the mods section of the forums and pick out some mods to use. By the Way Welcome abord Boofhead! Sink them all with the best of luck! amd please stay out of Der Kanal its the worest place to be and you wil have a 99.999997 chance of being dead. __________________ The Crazy Wolf

10-25-07, 06:56 AM	#5
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Dont listen to what everyone says about the channel... its EASY!!! /thumbing my nose at gwx I've done it a few times, but never really had any problems - I stick to the south rather than going through tthe middle. Only once have i gone up north with GWX and that was to intercept a convoy. Down south theres not many problems at all... Although i've seen on here the number of mines which are around the place. Either way, I do it only if im keen for some risk, its normally too shallow to do safely anyway.

10-25-07, 03:02 PM	#13
3Jane Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: York. Northern England. Posts: 1,004 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The possitive buoyancy might evenualy raise the boat to PD, if the remaining oxygen lasts long enough. But still submerged, so the diesels would be out of reach. There is absolutely no compressed air left, at all. __________________ Fate opposes me in vitality and morality, forced ever onward, burdened, always in shackles. So this very moment, without tarrying, pluck the quivering strings. Because fate punishes the one who plays, all lament with me. (http://hosted.filefront.com/KatherineRowan)

10-25-07, 03:08 PM	#14
DirtyACE Engineer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 213 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	I navigate the chanel every so often also and the best way I've found to do it is to travel submerged during daytime and on the surface by night. Whenever you have spoted a warship go submerged and silent running. It has so far worked like a charm for me.

10-25-07, 03:42 PM	#15
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I was going to leave your crew a candle, but... since you were stupid enough to try and pull something like this on Plymouth, NO CANDLES FOR YOU!! YOU'VE COST THE GERMAN KRIEGSMARINE A PERFECT U-BOAT AND A FULL CREW! Last edited by Stealth Hunter; 10-25-07 at 04:29 PM.