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Old 10-08-07, 06:44 PM   #1
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WASHINGTON (Map, News) - Sandy Berger, who stole highly classified terrorism documents from the National Archives, destroyed them and lied to investigators, is now an adviser to presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton.

This woman has no shame or respect for anything except her own hubris.
The man is a criminal and an advisor to a candidate for POTUS. My God what have we come to?

http://www.examiner.com/a-977346~He_...y_Clinton.html
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Old 10-09-07, 12:19 AM   #2
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This should actually have been news several weeks ago.

Ask yourself why it wasn't. :hmm: Here's a hint to the answer.
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These people are Democrats. Are you really that surprised by this? Whenever I see criminals or traitors working in cahoots with Democrats to achieve mutual interests, I'm never surprised by it. Only sickened. As far as I'm concerned, it's just more of the same from the Democrats.
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These people are Democrats.
There were times back when where many US politicians of every persuasion were people of integrity, regardless of party. One doesn't have to look too far back.

Republicans are not saints, either. At the most, they are possibly the lesser of 2 evils.

The Democratic Party has been commandeered to the extreme left fringes. Here in Israel, this has also happened not only to the socilaist democratic Labor Party but even to a smaller extent to the right center Likud Party, who now espouse a platform closer to the Labor Party's own platform back in the early 90's.

The parallels are very similar.

I can find here the influencial people mostly responsible for this trend. Can you do the same in the US? It's really very easy. Follow the money.
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Republicans are not saints, either. At the most, they are possibly the lesser of 2 evils.
Oh, yes. I'm aware of this. I just point out, that the Democratic party of today often works with very undesirable people. And quite often for nefarious purposes. The fact that Mrs. Clinton associates herself with a known criminal as an advisor to her campaign shows she has no shame. Just like the rest of her party. The Republicans aren't great, but they are definitely the lesser of two evils.
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A side question. Can anybody explain to me why democrats/socalists do what's best for the party first and the people second?
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These people are Democrats. Are you really that surprised by this? Whenever I see criminals or traitors working in cahoots with Democrats to achieve mutual interests, I'm never surprised by it. Only sickened. As far as I'm concerned, it's just more of the same from the Democrats.
:rotfl: I think you should see a psychiatrist. It's really not healthy when you are blind to your own.

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Some of the worst scandals in american modern history - were staged by Republicans, noit Democrats, namely Watergate, and Irangate. compared to such issues, the sexual orientation of this or that guy, or some cheap property gains by use of insider kinowledge of a given person, are peanuts that often get blown up to sizes of a sky-hiding ballon. Europeans are constantly amused by the fact that many americans seem to think that democracts are the one holding the monopole to be involved in scandals, while the republican party describes itself as sin-free and innocent. How absurd.

Just to add some balance and an opposing counter-view to this thread's strong stand against democrats:

http://www.democraticunderground.com...3/29_lies.html

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When is a scandal not a scandal? When a scandal appears to be connected with a member of the Republican Party, it is not reported as a "scandal." Only when a member of the Democratic Party has involvement in anything that broaches the questionable grey area is something "determined" to be a "scandal." After an eight year-long investigation of William Jefferson and Hillary Clinton was concluded with "no evidence," it is still reported as a "scandal." That $70 million in taxpayer dollars and untold hours were devoted to finding something, anything, to throw at the Clintons has shown that there was nothing to throw. The media (and I mean the major corporate media) still consider it to be a "scandal." One that just won't go away. One that has to be lied about and drummed constantly into the psyche of the American public until something resonates. What is resonating are the words that have been repeated endlessly until almost everyone can recite them verbatim.
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Just to add some balance and an opposing counter-view to this thread's strong stand against democrats:

http://www.democraticunderground.com...3/29_lies.html
Uhh, Skybird? That website is a partisan hack website, belonging to some of the most vile dredge of humanity in the USA. They are socialist kooks over there. Anything from that site can be largely discounted as pure trash.
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:rotfl: I think you should see a psychiatrist. It's really not healthy when you are blind to your own.
Actually, I just feel strongly about not wanting to see my taxes raised, I don't want us to lose the war---which is pretty much a guarantee if the Democrats take the executive office, and I don't want to see new entitlements such as Hilary's "$5,000 for every new baby born" Mexican illegal alien giveaway program. Not to mention I'm not too happy that the Chinese despots and Islamic terrorists seemingly want to se Democrats in power. Just why would that be???

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=57970

Actually, I'm not too happy with Republicans for not pursuing the things the voters wanted from them. The Democrats are just too loathesome for my tastes. For many, many reasons.
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