Original Harry Reid/Rush Limbaugh Smear Letter

10-13-07, 06:03 PM

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bradclark1 · 10-13-07, 07:42 PM

I don't know if the signatures are worth that much but where is the smear part on that letter?

Enigma · 10-13-07, 08:18 PM

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where is the smear part on that letter?

I 2nd that. Rush smears for a living! Haha. Just as much a waste of space as Coulter....

JALU3 · 10-13-07, 10:59 PM

That maybe your opinion of this orator, but he is not a government official, using the government dime, to attack a private person. If you don't like his opinion, one need not listen . . . there are dozens of other radio stations that you can chose to listen to.

The Avon Lady · 10-13-07, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1

I don't know if the signatures are worth that much but where is the smear part on that letter?

Misrepresentation of Limbaugh's use of the term "phoney soldiers". Do a little bit of elementary searching.

teddy996 · 10-14-07, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JALU3

That maybe your opinion of this orator, but he is not a government official, using the government dime, to attack a private person. If you don't like his opinion, one need not listen . . . there are dozens of other radio stations that you can chose to listen to.

Too true. Also, these are American senators, elected officials in the highest offices of our government, condemning a citizen for speaking his mind. People scream and cry "free speech" when some jackass gets tazered by rent-a-cops for violating the rules at a privately- funded speaking event, but allow an atrocity like this to occur with no flailing, controversy, or even media coverage. The fact is, members of our government attempted to silence one of our citizens through a blatant act of intimidation in the form of a petition; coming dangerously close to violation of the 1st amendment. The silence from the (usually loud) civil liberties group is shocking. Note the signatures of those running for a presidential bid- including Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

The Avon Lady · 10-14-07, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by teddy996

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Originally Posted by JALU3

That maybe your opinion of this orator, but he is not a government official, using the government dime, to attack a private person. If you don't like his opinion, one need not listen . . . there are dozens of other radio stations that you can chose to listen to.

Too true. Also, these are American senators, elected officials in the highest offices of our government, condemning a citizen for speaking his mind. People scream and cry "free speech" when some jackass gets tazered by rent-a-cops for violating the rules at a privately- funded speaking event, but allow an atrocity like this to occur with no flailing, controversy, or even media coverage. The fact is, members of our government attempted to silence one of our citizens through a blatant act of intimidation in the form of a petition; coming dangerously close to violation of the 1st amendment. The silence from the (usually loud) civil liberties group is shocking. Note the signatures of those running for a presidential bid- including Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

Politicians are also entitled to free speech, no less than Joe Citizen.

The main difference is that you hope and pray that the politicians elected into office will be honest and of good reputation - oh - and a little intelligence would be nice, too.

Petitions do not violate the 1st Amendment. They are everyone's right, allowed by the 1st Amendment. It's slander and libel that are prohibited by law. Use your free speech to break those laws and be prepared to pay the price.

JALU3 · 10-14-07, 06:34 AM

Yes they are still allowed to speak freely under their first amendment right . . . however, they need not do it on the government dime, entering their statements (which do not impact the government) into their respective house's records.

bradclark1 · 10-14-07, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

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Originally Posted by bradclark1

I don't know if the signatures are worth that much but where is the smear part on that letter?

Misrepresentation of Limbaugh's use of the term "phoney soldiers". Do a little bit of elementary searching.

Why should I search for whats in front of my face? Why don't don't you read the last couple of paragraphs yourself.

The Avon Lady · 10-14-07, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

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Originally Posted by bradclark1

I don't know if the signatures are worth that much but where is the smear part on that letter?

Misrepresentation of Limbaugh's use of the term "phoney soldiers". Do a little bit of elementary searching.

Why should I search for whats in front of my face? Why don't don't you read the last couple of paragraphs yourself.

If you're referring to the Senators' letter, I did, way before this thread started. It is a continuation of the smear.

I suggest again that you search for the context of what Limbaugh was referring to as "phoney soldiers".

CptSimFreak · 10-14-07, 02:59 PM

lol

bradclark1 · 10-14-07, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

If you're referring to the Senators' letter, I did, way before this thread started. It is a continuation of the smear.

I suggest again that you search for the context of what Limbaugh was referring to as "phoney soldiers".

Yeah, they jumped on Limbaugh's unfortunate choice of words. Pretty stupid decision on their part. Limbaugh apoligized too. I guess they regret it now.

teddy996 · 10-15-07, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

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Originally Posted by teddy996

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Originally Posted by JALU3

That maybe your opinion of this orator, but he is not a government official, using the government dime, to attack a private person. If you don't like his opinion, one need not listen . . . there are dozens of other radio stations that you can chose to listen to.

Too true. Also, these are American senators, elected officials in the highest offices of our government, condemning a citizen for speaking his mind. People scream and cry "free speech" when some jackass gets tazered by rent-a-cops for violating the rules at a privately- funded speaking event, but allow an atrocity like this to occur with no flailing, controversy, or even media coverage. The fact is, members of our government attempted to silence one of our citizens through a blatant act of intimidation in the form of a petition; coming dangerously close to violation of the 1st amendment. The silence from the (usually loud) civil liberties group is shocking. Note the signatures of those running for a presidential bid- including Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

Politicians are also entitled to free speech, no less than Joe Citizen.

The main difference is that you hope and pray that the politicians elected into office will be honest and of good reputation - oh - and a little intelligence would be nice, too.

Petitions do not violate the 1st Amendment. They are everyone's right, allowed by the 1st Amendment. It's slander and libel that are prohibited by law. Use your free speech to break those laws and be prepared to pay the price.

Politicians are indeed entitled to all the rights citizens hold. However, these politicians were not speaking as citizens, but were using their government offices to make a statement. (You can view it online at Democrats.senate.gov). I'm all for those guys using their private lives to do what they wish to whomever they wish, as long as no laws were broken. It's their right to do so. But these douchebags used up time in the senate- time we pay for- to condemn a citizen through petition. That's a fine line they're putting their toes on, is all I'm saying, and is the closest thing to a violation of free speech that's come along in awhile. It's also in extremely bad taste.

The Avon Lady · 10-15-07, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by teddy996

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

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Originally Posted by teddy996

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Originally Posted by JALU3

That maybe your opinion of this orator, but he is not a government official, using the government dime, to attack a private person. If you don't like his opinion, one need not listen . . . there are dozens of other radio stations that you can chose to listen to.

Too true. Also, these are American senators, elected officials in the highest offices of our government, condemning a citizen for speaking his mind. People scream and cry "free speech" when some jackass gets tazered by rent-a-cops for violating the rules at a privately- funded speaking event, but allow an atrocity like this to occur with no flailing, controversy, or even media coverage. The fact is, members of our government attempted to silence one of our citizens through a blatant act of intimidation in the form of a petition; coming dangerously close to violation of the 1st amendment. The silence from the (usually loud) civil liberties group is shocking. Note the signatures of those running for a presidential bid- including Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

Politicians are also entitled to free speech, no less than Joe Citizen.

The main difference is that you hope and pray that the politicians elected into office will be honest and of good reputation - oh - and a little intelligence would be nice, too.

Petitions do not violate the 1st Amendment. They are everyone's right, allowed by the 1st Amendment. It's slander and libel that are prohibited by law. Use your free speech to break those laws and be prepared to pay the price.

Politicians are indeed entitled to all the rights citizens hold. However, these politicians were not speaking as citizens, but were using their government offices to make a statement. (You can view it online at Democrats.senate.gov). I'm all for those guys using their private lives to do what they wish to whomever they wish, as long as no laws were broken. It's their right to do so. But these douchebags used up time in the senate- time we pay for- to condemn a citizen through petition. That's a fine line they're putting their toes on, is all I'm saying, and is the closest thing to a violation of free speech that's come along in awhile. It's also in extremely bad taste.

I have no problem with this in principle. Imagine if it were true that a famous public personality of popular influence actually did say something so negative about the US military to an audience of 100s of thousand or millions over the airwaves. I would be very proud if my elected representatives opened up their mouths to say the right thing for a change.

My problem is:

1. They were 100% wrong.

2. Of all people to accuse others of harming and insulting our troops, Reid should shut his fat mouth. What a disgusting hypocrite.

10-15-07, 10:14 AM

On the plus side, while Harry Ried is fiddling with writing letters to the CEO of Clear Channel and reading Moveon.org sound bites into the Congressional Record, he can't actually do what he and his cohorts were elected to do.

And the procedes from the Ebay auction will be going to a worthy charity.

10-13-07, 06:03 PM	#1
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10-13-07, 10:59 PM	#4
JALU3 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: 11SMS 98896 10565 Posts: 756 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That maybe your opinion of this orator, but he is not a government official, using the government dime, to attack a private person. If you don't like his opinion, one need not listen . . . there are dozens of other radio stations that you can chose to listen to. __________________ "The Federation needs men like you, doctor. Men of conscience. Men of principle. Men who can sleep at night... You're also the reason Section Thirty-one exists -- someone has to protect men like you from a universe that doesn't share your sense of right and wrong." -Sloan, Section Thirty-One

10-14-07, 06:34 AM	#8
JALU3 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: 11SMS 98896 10565 Posts: 756 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yes they are still allowed to speak freely under their first amendment right . . . however, they need not do it on the government dime, entering their statements (which do not impact the government) into their respective house's records. __________________ "The Federation needs men like you, doctor. Men of conscience. Men of principle. Men who can sleep at night... You're also the reason Section Thirty-one exists -- someone has to protect men like you from a universe that doesn't share your sense of right and wrong." -Sloan, Section Thirty-One

10-13-07, 07:42 PM	#2
bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I don't know if the signatures are worth that much but where is the smear part on that letter?

10-14-07, 02:59 PM	#11
CptSimFreak Frogman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 291 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	lol

10-15-07, 10:14 AM	#15
waste gate Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	On the plus side, while Harry Ried is fiddling with writing letters to the CEO of Clear Channel and reading Moveon.org sound bites into the Congressional Record, he can't actually do what he and his cohorts were elected to do. And the procedes from the Ebay auction will be going to a worthy charity.