Ok dont laugh (NZ coppers bad shots)

kiwi_2005 · 10-03-07, 02:47 AM

I use to beable to shoot a rabbit running 50yrds away with a 22 rifle. These coppers fired 12 shots at a rotterweiler and missed. Im glad the dog never got killed wasn't his fault. They got the bad guy in the end and the dog gets to live.

http://tinyurl.com/33kqgt

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NEW Zealand police fired their guns 12 times at a snarling rottweiler during a domestic dispute but missed every time, local media reported.
Officers had already tried capsicum spray on the "large, lunging rottweiler" with no effect, the New Zealand Press Assocation said.
A 19-year-old man threw an axe, logs and bottles at police who tried to arrest him last night at Porirua, near Wellington, before setting his partner's dog on officers, Inspector John Spence said.
After the capsicum spray failed to subdue the rottweiler, the young officers began shooting at the dog as it ran around the property, but missed.
Asked why police fired so many shots at the dog, Insp Spence said shooting at moving things in real life was different to shooting at targets at the range.
"It was a small, fast moving target. I am satisfied no members of the public were put at risk," he said.
The 90-minute stand-off ended when police set three of their own dogs on the man, inflicting leg wounds that needed surgery.
The rottweiler was returned to its owner and would not be put down, police said.

Letum · 10-03-07, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

I use to beable to shoot a rabbit running 50yrds away with a 22 rifle.

I don't even try to take a shot after they run.
Perhaps I should give it a try next spring.

SUBMAN1 · 10-03-07, 12:37 PM

You have a small fast target with a pistol - yep I can see them missing. This is real life, not Hollywood where everyone hits their mark in Hollywood - at least if you are the main character.

Give these coppers a rifle and I bet they would hit him every time too. A pistol is nothing more than a defensive weapon for use against a man sized target at very close range. It is not an offensive or hunting weapon.

-S

Letum · 10-03-07, 01:19 PM

Perhaps they did have rifles or SMGs, it doesn't say.

The only sure way to take down a criminal and his dog is with nukes.
The police should have more nukes.

SUBMAN1 · 10-03-07, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

...The only sure way to take down a criminal and his dog is with nukes.
The police should have more nukes.

I totally agree!

Letum · 10-03-07, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by Letum

...The only sure way to take down a criminal and his dog is with nukes.
The police should have more nukes.

I totally agree!

Not those sissy Liberal "tactical" nukes either. (talking of which)

NYPD ICBM MRIV Nukes!

Sailor Steve · 10-03-07, 06:48 PM

It's not just your cops; there have been many incidents of close-range shootouts resulting in dozens if not hundreds of shots fired, finally resulting in one death, or wounding, or nothing at all. The most difficult shot to make is the one that's real; you tend to get a little excited when bad things are happening.

Still, great story!

bradclark1 · 10-03-07, 07:41 PM

Thats why they cut down double barreled shotguns into pistols. Then you just have to aim in the general direction.

bookworm_020 · 10-03-07, 08:34 PM

I remember seeing footage of two police officers and two suspects shooting at each other with pistols, from close range (1-2 meters apart) to when suspect take off on foot. Not one round hit a target (they didn't hit anyone else, thankfuly!) I can see how the offier miss the dog!

kiwi_2005 · 10-03-07, 10:02 PM

NZ police carry rifles, not pistols.

baggygreen · 10-03-07, 10:07 PM

Is that to keep the vicious, man-eating sheep away like in the movie Black Sheep??

Seriously tho, I always used to think of NZ as a peaceful, dull little place. Apparently it aint so!

kiwi_2005 · 10-03-07, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

I use to beable to shoot a rabbit running 50yrds away with a 22 rifle.

I don't even try to take a shot after they run.
Perhaps I should give it a try next spring.

Well yeah quite easy, i got given my first air rifle when 8 years old then by the time i was 14, i was hunting with a 22 and sometimes shotgun, use to shoot, rabbits/hares, pheasants, ducks, pigs, & would trapped posseums for their skins. And what i shot we ate. Posseum meat taste like chicken

& Rabbit stew with yams, mouth watering...

I use to beable to shoot rabbits running easily with a 22, havn't been rabbit shooting for a very long time so i dont think i could now.

SUBMAN1 · 10-03-07, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

NZ police carry rifles, not pistols.

OK, that is getting worse then. I can totally understand how you can miss with a pistol (rather easy considering with all the training FBI agents get, their hit rate with pistols is still only 18% - that means they completely miss 82% of the time!), but a rifle at close range? Come on! They should be hitting 82% of the time and only missing 18%!!!!

-S

kiwi_2005 · 10-03-07, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by baggygreen

Seriously tho, I always used to think of NZ as a peaceful, dull little place. Apparently it aint so!

Mate the truth is we are a pretty violent society, like any country i suppose but we give this impression to tourist we are clean, green, nuke free, and you can walk freely around without getting mugged. We got the highest per population for attacking tourists. But yeah tourist come here with that impression only to end up robbed, beaten and told to go home...

We aren't all like that tho. It also depends where u go.

Jimbuna · 10-04-07, 06:12 AM

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The 90-minute stand-off ended when police set three of their own dogs on the man, inflicting leg wounds that needed surgery.

They might have had more luck setting the dogs on the Rottweiler :rotfl:

10-03-07, 12:37 PM	#3
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You have a small fast target with a pistol - yep I can see them missing. This is real life, not Hollywood where everyone hits their mark in Hollywood - at least if you are the main character. Give these coppers a rifle and I bet they would hit him every time too. A pistol is nothing more than a defensive weapon for use against a man sized target at very close range. It is not an offensive or hunting weapon. -S __________________

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Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Perhaps they did have rifles or SMGs, it doesn't say. The only sure way to take down a criminal and his dog is with nukes. The police should have more nukes. __________________

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	It's not just your cops; there have been many incidents of close-range shootouts resulting in dozens if not hundreds of shots fired, finally resulting in one death, or wounding, or nothing at all. The most difficult shot to make is the one that's real; you tend to get a little excited when bad things are happening. Still, great story! __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I remember seeing footage of two police officers and two suspects shooting at each other with pistols, from close range (1-2 meters apart) to when suspect take off on foot. Not one round hit a target (they didn't hit anyone else, thankfuly!) I can see how the offier miss the dog! __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

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kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	NZ police carry rifles, not pistols. __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

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bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Thats why they cut down double barreled shotguns into pistols. Then you just have to aim in the general direction.

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baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Is that to keep the vicious, man-eating sheep away like in the movie Black Sheep?? Seriously tho, I always used to think of NZ as a peaceful, dull little place. Apparently it aint so!