How do you sink your enemy convoys ?

LoneTraveller · 09-02-07, 11:13 PM

How do you sink your enemy convoys ?

Like a ghost (who likes the shadows) or Man ( who attack regardless of weather)

I like to get in between the 2 biggest lines of ships and attack them both (from front and rear torpedoes) when ever I spot them or what ever the year.

bookworm_020 · 09-03-07, 01:06 AM

I slip past the lead escort, move into the center of the convoy, pick the best targets and then let fly! By the time the escorts wake up to my presence, I have already ducked out of the convoy to reload or have moved deeper inside and preparing to strik again.

siber · 09-03-07, 02:20 AM

Generally, I move ahead of where the convoy will come from and sit at periscope depth, engines stopped and on silent running engaged (to shut the crew up!) as close to perpendicular to its course as possible.

Once the lead escort goes past, I move forward at two knots, sometimes passing the outside row of ships. Then, the 90 degree angle makes calculation of AOB easy as... and prevents my torpedoes from bouncing off the ships' hulls too much.

If the range to target is less than 1km, I can be reasonably certain of getting at least one hit.

Letum · 09-03-07, 04:01 AM

Usualy at 90deg at the maximum range of the torps; outside the escort screen.

Canovaro · 09-03-07, 05:53 AM

Position myself between the first column and the second. Then usually fire all bow tubes, then get deep and silent. I also fire the stern tube(s), if I can do this right away; if not I dive and get out.
I always get out silent and usually they cannot find me at all.

madmike81 · 09-03-07, 06:15 AM

Early in the war?

I usually shoot the escort up front first. Drive the convoy into a panic.

Then slide in between the lines at ahead full shooting at will.

After 43...

I usually die...quickly...lol.

TAW_CZAREJS · 09-03-07, 06:29 AM

I sink convoys usually by getting sunk and hoping that the escaping air from my hull bubbles to the surface and capsizes the ships:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Captain Nemo · 09-03-07, 06:56 AM

I tend to approach from the front of the convoy at a depth of about 40 metres and hope that the lead escort doesn't detect me. Once I'm within the convoy I turn to get into the best firing position, go up to periscope depth, pick my targets and fire my torps. I have been detected by the lead escort on many occasions and been depth charged but once I'm under the convoy itself there is a brief opportunity to sink some ships.

Nemo

bigboywooly · 09-03-07, 09:20 AM

With torpedos and shells

UnterseeBoogeyMan · 09-03-07, 09:30 AM

The tutorials here on plotting enemy course from aob were so good that I can reliably plot the correct course as soon as I have a visual (and provided they suddenly dont change course!). This enables me to draw out a course line for two ships spaced 1000 meters apart. I race ahead on the surface, at night, get 4000 meters ahead of the lead escort, make my turn so I'm 90 degrees to the convoy, find a spot 500 meters to either side of the 2 course lines and go to periscope depth. Even if the waves are whipped up by some wind, I go to Silent Running and sit there until convoy passes by.
I track the escort on the hydrophones, and I dont bring the periscope up until the merchant contact is 30 degrees from 0 or 180. By that time, the escort is 1000 meters away and ussually 140 aob to me. This has worked for 1939 -1940. Time will tell if this continues to work.

Lafferty · 09-03-07, 11:07 AM

I wait till dark then i go in on the surface and use my torps and my deck gun. Now if i see any escorts then i take care of them first.

danurve · 09-03-07, 11:22 AM

I like my spider and pounce method.

If that doesn't work, the words seat of my pants comes to mind.

VolvicCH · 09-03-07, 12:03 PM

perpendicular to convoy course, pick 4 targets, wait for front escort to pass, fire 2 steamers at targets farthest away then 2 electric at 2 closest ones. Wait for detonation, go to flank and 40 meters. when at 30 meters go slow and execute 45/90 degree turn and stay submerged untill im sure there noone on my tail.

Have a nice day

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr · 09-03-07, 02:42 PM

i go between the convoy line's and fire all tube's. then dive to reload.
when reloaded and the escorts havnt spot me i repeat the same procedure

Hitman · 09-03-07, 02:48 PM

If I have conducted the correct approach I should be between the lines and moving in the same direction of the convoy, albeit slowly (Let them catch me). So I can shoot two salvoes of two torpedos at a 90º and 270º Gyro Angle and hit two targets. Rear torpedo tube comes not in question because with manual targeting it is too difficult to compensate the parallax without an accurate range reading

so I follow UBoat Commander's Handbook advice and don't use it in running fights

If I failed in my approach or the convoy zigged, I tend to look for the 90º AOB and shoot a salvo at two ships.

P.S. I wish convoys had a bit more separation between lines and escrots were farther away to allow more real-life tactics, but as they are in SH3 (Specially the escorts, because GWX corrects very well the spacing for large convoys

) you usually find that browning shots from outside the escrot screen work reasonably well :hmm:

View Poll Results: How do you sink your enemy convoys ?
Perpendicular (90 degree angle from the convoy)	33	39.29%
Oppertinuatly (45 degree angle from the center ships of the convoy)	6	7.14%
Kretschmer's way (sneak between the escorts and sink the biggest from a stern)	8	9.52%
Convoy scare me ! I stick to lone merchants.	4	4.76%
My way...Get between the center lines of ships, sink them from front and behind torpedoes.	33	39.29%
Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll

09-02-07, 11:13 PM	#1
LoneTraveller Seaman Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 39 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	How do you sink your enemy convoys ? How do you sink your enemy convoys ? Like a ghost (who likes the shadows) or Man ( who attack regardless of weather) I like to get in between the 2 biggest lines of ships and attack them both (from front and rear torpedoes) when ever I spot them or what ever the year.

09-03-07, 01:06 AM	#2
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I slip past the lead escort, move into the center of the convoy, pick the best targets and then let fly! By the time the escorts wake up to my presence, I have already ducked out of the convoy to reload or have moved deeper inside and preparing to strik again. __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

09-03-07, 02:20 AM	#3
siber Planesman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Salford, Manchester, UK Posts: 182 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Generally, I move ahead of where the convoy will come from and sit at periscope depth, engines stopped and on silent running engaged (to shut the crew up!) as close to perpendicular to its course as possible. Once the lead escort goes past, I move forward at two knots, sometimes passing the outside row of ships. Then, the 90 degree angle makes calculation of AOB easy as... and prevents my torpedoes from bouncing off the ships' hulls too much. If the range to target is less than 1km, I can be reasonably certain of getting at least one hit. __________________ Using GWX 3.0 at 100% realism, OLC's 'Ubermod' & Torpdamagefinal

09-03-07, 04:01 AM	#4
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Usualy at 90deg at the maximum range of the torps; outside the escort screen. __________________

09-03-07, 05:53 AM	#5
Canovaro Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,062 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Position myself between the first column and the second. Then usually fire all bow tubes, then get deep and silent. I also fire the stern tube(s), if I can do this right away; if not I dive and get out. I always get out silent and usually they cannot find me at all.

09-03-07, 06:15 AM	#6
madmike81 Sparky Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Johnson City TN Posts: 155 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Early in the war? I usually shoot the escort up front first. Drive the convoy into a panic. Then slide in between the lines at ahead full shooting at will. After 43... I usually die...quickly...lol. __________________ "We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We're evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go."

09-03-07, 06:29 AM	#7
TAW_CZAREJS A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 72 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I sink convoys usually by getting sunk and hoping that the escaping air from my hull bubbles to the surface and capsizes the ships:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: __________________

09-03-07, 06:56 AM	#8
Captain Nemo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 1,144 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	I tend to approach from the front of the convoy at a depth of about 40 metres and hope that the lead escort doesn't detect me. Once I'm within the convoy I turn to get into the best firing position, go up to periscope depth, pick my targets and fire my torps. I have been detected by the lead escort on many occasions and been depth charged but once I'm under the convoy itself there is a brief opportunity to sink some ships. Nemo __________________ "I'm afraid there is no disguising the fact that King's obsession with the Pacific and the Battle of Washington cost us dear in the Battle of the Atlantic". Sir John Slessor GCB, DSO, MC, DL AOC-in-C Coastal Command RAF ___________________________________________

09-03-07, 09:20 AM	#9
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	With torpedos and shells __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

09-03-07, 09:30 AM	#10
UnterseeBoogeyMan Ensign Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Land of Cholla Cactus and Red Chile Posts: 224 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	The tutorials here on plotting enemy course from aob were so good that I can reliably plot the correct course as soon as I have a visual (and provided they suddenly dont change course!). This enables me to draw out a course line for two ships spaced 1000 meters apart. I race ahead on the surface, at night, get 4000 meters ahead of the lead escort, make my turn so I'm 90 degrees to the convoy, find a spot 500 meters to either side of the 2 course lines and go to periscope depth. Even if the waves are whipped up by some wind, I go to Silent Running and sit there until convoy passes by. I track the escort on the hydrophones, and I dont bring the periscope up until the merchant contact is 30 degrees from 0 or 180. By that time, the escort is 1000 meters away and ussually 140 aob to me. This has worked for 1939 -1940. Time will tell if this continues to work.

09-03-07, 11:07 AM	#11
Lafferty Officer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hot Springs Arkansas Posts: 245 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	I wait till dark then i go in on the surface and use my torps and my deck gun. Now if i see any escorts then i take care of them first.

09-03-07, 11:22 AM	#12
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	I like my spider and pounce method. If that doesn't work, the words seat of my pants comes to mind. __________________

09-03-07, 12:03 PM	#13
VolvicCH Bosun Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Guadiaro, Spain Posts: 65 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	perpendicular to convoy course, pick 4 targets, wait for front escort to pass, fire 2 steamers at targets farthest away then 2 electric at 2 closest ones. Wait for detonation, go to flank and 40 meters. when at 30 meters go slow and execute 45/90 degree turn and stay submerged untill im sure there noone on my tail. Have a nice day __________________ “Oh God, thy sea is so great and my boat is so small” “As we sail thru life, don't avoid rough waters, sail on because calm waters won't make a skillful sailor”

09-03-07, 02:42 PM	#14
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: in my sub Posts: 2,741 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	i go between the convoy line's and fire all tube's. then dive to reload. when reloaded and the escorts havnt spot me i repeat the same procedure __________________ Gruß

09-03-07, 02:48 PM	#15
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	If I have conducted the correct approach I should be between the lines and moving in the same direction of the convoy, albeit slowly (Let them catch me). So I can shoot two salvoes of two torpedos at a 90º and 270º Gyro Angle and hit two targets. Rear torpedo tube comes not in question because with manual targeting it is too difficult to compensate the parallax without an accurate range reading so I follow UBoat Commander's Handbook advice and don't use it in running fights If I failed in my approach or the convoy zigged, I tend to look for the 90º AOB and shoot a salvo at two ships. P.S. I wish convoys had a bit more separation between lines and escrots were farther away to allow more real-life tactics, but as they are in SH3 (Specially the escorts, because GWX corrects very well the spacing for large convoys ) you usually find that browning shots from outside the escrot screen work reasonably well :hmm: __________________ One day I will return to sea ...