New Firefox to have malware???

SUBMAN1 · 09-26-07, 01:58 PM

Saw this on Slashdot -
Firefox 3 Antiphishing Sends Your URLs To Google

"As we were discussing, Gran Paradiso — the latest version of Firefox — is nearing release. Gran Paradiso includes a form of malware protection that checks every URL against a known list of sites. It does so by sending each URL to Google. In other words, if people enable this feature, they get some malware protection, and Google gets a wealth of information about which sites are popular (or, for that matter, which sites should be checked for malware). Fair deal? Not to worry — the feature is disabled by default."

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/09/25/1622229.shtml

DeepIron · 09-26-07, 02:25 PM

No it's not "malware" it's "anti-malware"...

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...if people enable this feature...

This is no different than what M$ has done with IE... AND, it's becoming more of a "standard feature" in browsers...

If anyone has a "Big Brother is Watching" issue, simple solution, don't enable it...

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Not to worry — the feature is disabled by default."

There ya go...

SUBMAN1 · 09-26-07, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron

No it's not "malware" it's "anti-malware"...

Quote:

...if people enable this feature...

This is no different than what M$ has done with IE... AND, it's becoming more of a "standard feature" in browsers...

If anyone has a "Big Brother is Watching" issue, simple solution, don't enable it...

Quote:

Not to worry — the feature is disabled by default."

There ya go...

I don't agree - Do you know how much Google is froothing at the mouth to record your browsing habits? That is why it is Malware in my book. Now if they paid me to record my habits, thats one thing, but they aren't.

-S

DeepIron · 09-26-07, 02:34 PM

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That is why it is Malware in my book.

Malware doesn't advertise that it has an "off switch"...

Anyway, I do agree with you concerning the statistics gathering nature of this. I don't care to have my browsing habits examined either... (Dull and boring, that's me. But it's MY dull and boring... LOL)

antikristuseke · 09-26-07, 02:36 PM

Well since its disabled by default it is your choise wether to turn it on or not.

SUBMAN1 · 09-26-07, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron

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That is why it is Malware in my book.

Malware doesn't advertise that it has an "off switch"...

Anyway, I do agree with you concerning the statistics gathering nature of this. I don't care to have my browsing habits examined either... (Dull and boring, that's me. But it's MY dull and boring... LOL)

I hear you - Malware by definition is enabled by default, but my personal definition goes a bit further to include any data gathering. I can bet you that you won't be able to run Firefox without Google enticing you to flip the switch - and many will I assume, so I still call it Malware.

-S

DeepIron · 09-26-07, 02:49 PM

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but my personal definition goes a bit further to include any data gathering...

I'd assume it's because you're a bit "old school" and expect people to respect your privacy etc. I'm the same way... Even my phone # is completely unlisted and I'm registered on all the Federal and State Do Not Call lists....

SUBMAN1 · 09-26-07, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron

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but my personal definition goes a bit further to include any data gathering...

I'd assume it's because you're a bit "old school" and expect people to respect your privacy etc. I'm the same way... Even my phone # is completely unlisted and I'm registered on all the Federal and State Do Not Call lists....

Yep - you sound like me

JSLTIGER · 09-26-07, 06:45 PM

It's probably a way for the Mozilla team to generate some revenue. I mean, Mozilla foundation has to make money somehow right? Without some source of cash for development, FF would not even exist.

Letum · 09-26-07, 07:28 PM

I ahve no problem if it is off by default.
It is not a breach of privicy if some one asks you if you want a security camera in your
house and you say no.

Kapitan_Phillips · 09-27-07, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

Well since its disabled by default it is your choise wether to turn it on or not.

So they say. I've seen many a Windows program run regardless.

antikristuseke · 09-27-07, 08:33 AM

I seriously doubt Firefox is going down that road. Comparing anything Microsoft to any other software is generaly a blow bellow the belt.

Jimbuna · 09-27-07, 09:31 AM

Provided you are pre-warned and given the choice....so be it

P_Funk · 09-27-07, 11:53 AM

It makes me wonder what kinds of deals federal agencies of have made or tried to offer to sites like google... :hmm:

09-26-07, 01:58 PM	#1
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	New Firefox to have malware??? Saw this on Slashdot - Firefox 3 Antiphishing Sends Your URLs To Google "As we were discussing, Gran Paradiso — the latest version of Firefox — is nearing release. Gran Paradiso includes a form of malware protection that checks every URL against a known list of sites. It does so by sending each URL to Google. In other words, if people enable this feature, they get some malware protection, and Google gets a wealth of information about which sites are popular (or, for that matter, which sites should be checked for malware). Fair deal? Not to worry — the feature is disabled by default." http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/09/25/1622229.shtml __________________

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09-26-07, 07:28 PM	#10
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I ahve no problem if it is off by default. It is not a breach of privicy if some one asks you if you want a security camera in your house and you say no. __________________

09-27-07, 09:31 AM	#13
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Provided you are pre-warned and given the choice....so be it __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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P_Funk Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 2,537 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	It makes me wonder what kinds of deals federal agencies of have made or tried to offer to sites like google... :hmm: __________________

09-26-07, 02:36 PM	#5
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Well since its disabled by default it is your choise wether to turn it on or not.

09-27-07, 08:33 AM	#12
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I seriously doubt Firefox is going down that road. Comparing anything Microsoft to any other software is generaly a blow bellow the belt.