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Old 08-30-07, 12:25 PM   #1
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Default M/S Estonia

I found this on youtube.

Chilling.



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Old 08-30-07, 12:34 PM   #2
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Cant belive it was that long ago. I lost friends on Estonia...

Remember all the controversy about it, how they wanted to pour concrete all over the wreckage?
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Old 08-30-07, 04:11 PM   #3
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I was on the Estonia three months before it sank, to this day it is the most magnificent vessel i have been on. aparently i havent been on many. Lost some relatives on that ship aswell as a good friend.
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Old 08-31-07, 09:53 AM   #4
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isnt it bloody hillarious how everyone keeps giving me sh1t in every thread i post, but no one calls me hate monger or liar in thise one?
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Old 08-31-07, 10:21 AM   #5
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I found this on youtube.

Chilling.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Estonia
Yeh, I heard that when they broadcasted in on telly back then. I still have the image of half naked bodies lifted from the upside down liferaft stuck in my head. Terrible..
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Old 08-31-07, 11:23 AM   #6
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A terrible tragedy...and some really chilling memories as I recall at the time
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Old 08-31-07, 03:15 PM   #7
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i wasnt too young but wasnt old i can only remember my stepdad watching the news all the time for updates and everything but he wont talk about it, all i know is he knew a crew man onboard the ship but he just wont talk about it.
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Old 08-31-07, 05:15 PM   #8
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Awful I wasn't in Europe at the time but followed the story with interest and great sadness. I recall asking myself if there wasn't something wrong with the whole ferry concept as they seemed to be the passenger ships with the most accidents (still a lot safer than cars though). There was the Herald of Free Enterprise in 1987 that I recall as well.
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isnt it bloody hillarious how everyone keeps giving me sh1t in every thread i post, but no one calls me hate monger or liar in thise one?
Well you are but threads tend to be topical and so far your fascist beliefs haven't become an issue in this one.
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Now thats why we call them RO RO RO ferries

Roll On, Roll Off, Roll Over.
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Now thats why we call them RO RO RO ferries

Roll On, Roll Off, Roll Over.
Bloody glad the missus don't visit this forum....our 18 year old is at sea and he got caught up in Hurricane Deane just last week
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He is pretty safe on the modern ships, it will take alot to sink a modern ship and the best place to be apparently when on of those things hits is at sea not in dock.
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I certainly hope so
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Yes, the Estonia. We lost a lot of people from Norrköping that night. A friend lost his parents. I still remember the pictures of passengers standing on the keel of the ship, waiting for.... awful
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Its a sad thing to note that it does take things like this to make the human race realise that its not impregnable the ships are not unsinkable, but we have learnt our lessons.

Dart 8 the vessel in which i worked on was built in 1980 before the SOLAS systems were up dated she sailed around with just stern doors and they were not really that water tight, in 1987 SOLAS majorly over hauled its recomendations as a result Dart 8 was totaly rebuilt in that area.

She had to have fitted water tight doors on the cargo decks a secondary stern door to stop water from getting in, a water tight stern door, and the first officer and senior watch crew member had to witness and sign off that the doors and hatchs were shut correctly before leaving for sea.

i know in alot of modern ferries to back all that up they installed cameras and theres always one person on the lower decks when at sea.

i spoke to my stepfather about all the SOLAS regulations his answer was " should have come in decades ago, alot of good men would have been saved" (refering to soviet merchant navy)

for thoes of you that dont know what SOLAS is SOLAS stands for Safty Of Life At Sea if you enter european or US or Asian waters including australia and south america each ship must possess a SOLAS card failure to show the card can result in the ship being impounded pending inspection (happend in dover 8 months ago)
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