S Class not recharging batteries

Peto · 07-17-07, 10:56 AM

If this subject is already covered elsewhere, I apologize and would appreciate being pointed in the right direction.

After installing 1.3 it seems my S Class boats no longer charge their batteries--or at least it takes a Very...Long...Time. Not workable when I like to dive for the day because it takes longer than 1 night to recharge. Has anyone else run into this or is there a fix?

Thank You All for the Great Work You Do!!!!!

Peto

Jace11 · 07-17-07, 02:08 PM

yup i have this too

annoying...

My periscopes dont animate either, pain...

Takes hell of a long time to get a charge... very slow...

Had a quick look at sim file...

She has her diesel eng_power lower than her electrics, checked a few other boats, they are all fine, suggest increase diesel eng_power, maybe that will fix it...

Will test...

Peto · 07-17-07, 09:01 PM

Thanks Jace! Good thread going over in the general forum too!

Salute!!!

Peto

Jace11 · 07-18-07, 06:39 AM

I increased diesel_eng power to 4200 (still less than a porpoise) it was set at 1200 while electrics were >2000..

Didn't change much, still takes too long to charge up..

Peto · 07-18-07, 12:30 PM

Thanks for the update Jace! I'm going to try to track down the problem too although you're more experienced with this program than I am. If I discover anything I'll let you know right away.

Cheers!

Peto

Bear · 07-18-07, 02:09 PM

The problem appears to be in all boats. Someone complained in patch 2 that the batteries were unrealistice. I think the Devs went too far in the other direction. I have also tried the solutions mentioned above, but to little avail. Example: Battery down to 50% off Honshu - halfway between Midway and Pearl on return vovage running at flank speed battery finally recharges. Am I to believe that to be realistic? Help needed Please.

Bando · 07-18-07, 03:42 PM

It seems to me that running at flank speed is not going to charge the batteries any time soon. With 4 diesels aboard running flank speed, all diesels will be used for propulsion rather than recharging. Normally, the less diesel engines you need for propulsion, the more diesels are available for recharging, hence at slow speed, recharging should be quicker.

Having said that, I think Bear is right. All the boats seem to have this in more or less state, the S class being the worst.
To Jace, the change of Horse power is not going to speed up the recharge proces. I'm not a wizzard, or expert, I tried to set it very high, no change.
Therefore, HP is not the solution. I did not figure out what is, still an ongoing process.

Go4It · 07-18-07, 06:24 PM

I was going to post a subject on battery recharge till I read this thread. It seems most subs take a long time to recharge, I was almost out of batteries when I got a chance to surface, It took 2 days to recharge.
It seems like it wasn't recharging till I switched between speeds, flank to 1/3 back to flank, an then it started recharging, but vary slowly.
I searched for anything that might refer me to a recharge time but with no luck.
Maybe the dev added a new line that the tweak files don't have?

07-18-07, 06:30 PM

If somebody figures out how to fix this, maybe it can be rolled together with the battery life mod.

THE_MASK · 07-18-07, 06:33 PM

Simple fix...when submerged travel at 1 knot during the day...works a treat...

pythos · 07-18-07, 08:12 PM

The 1200 diesle power for the S boats might be because the S boats had only 2 600 horse power engines. The electric motors were 1175 for the S18 class, and 750 hp for the S-42. (remeber to multiply these figures by two for the full power of the electrics. So indeed the electric motors were more powerful than the surface propulsion.

The porpoise class had 4x1,300hp diesles, and 4x521 hp motors.

The batteries on subs drained quite fast at high loads, and charged quite slow. It did take nearly an entire night's running on the surface at 2/3 speed to charge the batteries. This is why subs were more diving boats than true submarines.

Compared to the German boats, American boats were not all that great, until the advent of the Gato, and Balao class subs. The Uboats could charge batteries quicker, but also had smaller capacity compared to the american ocean cruisers (which aside from the Sboats all american subs of WWII were.).

The charging times may in fact be accurate.

07-18-07, 11:13 PM

Still, with the lower charge the s-boat batteries hold, a 24 to 36 hour charge time is a bit much.

Peto · 07-19-07, 12:04 AM

Agreed Mechman. It takes me more than 24 hours to recharge batteries. Much more if they're below half.

While your points are accurate pythos--and well researched

--this problem is a game bug. It makes the S Class pretty much unusable for a Career boat in my opinion.

Cheers All! I'll buy a drink to anyone who figures out this little annoyance. But I'll want to see some ID to make sure you're of legal age LOL.

Peto

Go4It · 07-19-07, 09:29 PM

I found if I run at slow speed my batteries recharge faster, if I run at flank batteries charge at ~1% per hour.

Bando · 07-20-07, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go4It

I found if I run at slow speed my batteries recharge faster, if I run at flank batteries charge at ~1% per hour.

See post 7

07-17-07, 10:56 AM	#1
Peto Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The details of my life are quite inconsequential Posts: 1,049 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	S Class not recharging batteries If this subject is already covered elsewhere, I apologize and would appreciate being pointed in the right direction. After installing 1.3 it seems my S Class boats no longer charge their batteries--or at least it takes a Very...Long...Time. Not workable when I like to dive for the day because it takes longer than 1 night to recharge. Has anyone else run into this or is there a fix? Thank You All for the Great Work You Do!!!!! Peto

07-17-07, 02:08 PM	#2
Jace11 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 683 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 1	yup i have this too annoying... My periscopes dont animate either, pain... Takes hell of a long time to get a charge... very slow... Had a quick look at sim file... She has her diesel eng_power lower than her electrics, checked a few other boats, they are all fine, suggest increase diesel eng_power, maybe that will fix it... Will test... Last edited by Jace11; 07-17-07 at 02:25 PM.

07-18-07, 02:09 PM	#6
Bear Helmsman Join Date: May 2005 Location: CSA - Confused States of America Posts: 107 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	The problem appears to be in all boats. Someone complained in patch 2 that the batteries were unrealistice. I think the Devs went too far in the other direction. I have also tried the solutions mentioned above, but to little avail. Example: Battery down to 50% off Honshu - halfway between Midway and Pearl on return vovage running at flank speed battery finally recharges. Am I to believe that to be realistic? Help needed Please. __________________ "When you are going to kill someone, it cost nothing to be polite." CRS

07-18-07, 03:42 PM	#7
Bando Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Location: Where you don't see me Posts: 607 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	It seems to me that running at flank speed is not going to charge the batteries any time soon. With 4 diesels aboard running flank speed, all diesels will be used for propulsion rather than recharging. Normally, the less diesel engines you need for propulsion, the more diesels are available for recharging, hence at slow speed, recharging should be quicker. Having said that, I think Bear is right. All the boats seem to have this in more or less state, the S class being the worst. To Jace, the change of Horse power is not going to speed up the recharge proces. I'm not a wizzard, or expert, I tried to set it very high, no change. Therefore, HP is not the solution. I did not figure out what is, still an ongoing process. __________________ Regards, Bando

07-17-07, 09:01 PM	#3
Peto Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The details of my life are quite inconsequential Posts: 1,049 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Thanks Jace! Good thread going over in the general forum too! Salute!!! Peto

07-18-07, 06:39 AM	#4
Jace11 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 683 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 1	I increased diesel_eng power to 4200 (still less than a porpoise) it was set at 1200 while electrics were >2000.. Didn't change much, still takes too long to charge up..

07-18-07, 12:30 PM	#5
Peto Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The details of my life are quite inconsequential Posts: 1,049 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the update Jace! I'm going to try to track down the problem too although you're more experienced with this program than I am. If I discover anything I'll let you know right away. Cheers! Peto

07-18-07, 06:24 PM	#8
Go4It Engineer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South of Buffalo N.Y. USA Posts: 209 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I was going to post a subject on battery recharge till I read this thread. It seems most subs take a long time to recharge, I was almost out of batteries when I got a chance to surface, It took 2 days to recharge. It seems like it wasn't recharging till I switched between speeds, flank to 1/3 back to flank, an then it started recharging, but vary slowly. I searched for anything that might refer me to a recharge time but with no luck. Maybe the dev added a new line that the tweak files don't have?

07-18-07, 06:30 PM	#9
Mechman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	If somebody figures out how to fix this, maybe it can be rolled together with the battery life mod.

07-18-07, 06:33 PM	#10
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Simple fix...when submerged travel at 1 knot during the day...works a treat...

07-18-07, 08:12 PM	#11
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	The 1200 diesle power for the S boats might be because the S boats had only 2 600 horse power engines. The electric motors were 1175 for the S18 class, and 750 hp for the S-42. (remeber to multiply these figures by two for the full power of the electrics. So indeed the electric motors were more powerful than the surface propulsion. The porpoise class had 4x1,300hp diesles, and 4x521 hp motors. The batteries on subs drained quite fast at high loads, and charged quite slow. It did take nearly an entire night's running on the surface at 2/3 speed to charge the batteries. This is why subs were more diving boats than true submarines. Compared to the German boats, American boats were not all that great, until the advent of the Gato, and Balao class subs. The Uboats could charge batteries quicker, but also had smaller capacity compared to the american ocean cruisers (which aside from the Sboats all american subs of WWII were.). The charging times may in fact be accurate.

07-18-07, 11:13 PM	#12
Mechman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Still, with the lower charge the s-boat batteries hold, a 24 to 36 hour charge time is a bit much.

07-19-07, 12:04 AM	#13
Peto Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The details of my life are quite inconsequential Posts: 1,049 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Agreed Mechman. It takes me more than 24 hours to recharge batteries. Much more if they're below half. While your points are accurate pythos--and well researched --this problem is a game bug. It makes the S Class pretty much unusable for a Career boat in my opinion. Cheers All! I'll buy a drink to anyone who figures out this little annoyance. But I'll want to see some ID to make sure you're of legal age LOL. Peto

07-19-07, 09:29 PM	#14
Go4It Engineer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South of Buffalo N.Y. USA Posts: 209 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I found if I run at slow speed my batteries recharge faster, if I run at flank batteries charge at ~1% per hour.