[TEC] Mystery of mission related CTDs solved!

tater · 07-01-07, 03:26 PM

A note to people creating missions with random groups:

Columns in random groups must be equal or less than the lowest possible number of ships in the group.

The formation allows a number of columns, and a spacing to be set. The number of columns can never be less than the number of ships or it CTDs every time.

I have this in my layers because I attempted to create a wide variety of random formations with a single group. I mad them with many many ships listed in some cases, with each ship of a low order of probability. So you might well see a TF with 20+ ships, but 5 might be more likely, and as few as 2 might be possible (if extremely unlikely).

I let the automated campaign editor pick random spacing and columns to mix things up.

If a convoy generates 2 ships, and is set to 3 columns, BOOM!

Version 0.68 will be out shortly with all of this fixed.

Thanks to Jace11 (yet again). He actually pointed out this as a possible problem a few days ago, somehow I missed it.

tater · 07-01-07, 04:04 PM

It was something I'd not do intentionally, but I didn't think of it when I ran the zig-zag code and let it randomize a few other things too, lol.

Bando · 07-01-07, 08:02 PM

Great find Tater

azn_132 · 07-02-07, 12:07 AM

Thxs for the info, useful for my changin the RND layas.

Mush Martin · 07-02-07, 06:56 AM

Well done Tater, Tough to find no doubt.
M

tater · 07-02-07, 07:48 AM

I actually had a dream about it, check an old version with the convoy that CTDs bando all the time, and there it was in my face.

tater

Jace11 · 07-03-07, 07:30 AM

Came to you in a dream...?

On page 8 of your campaign layers thread...

"Also, judging by the number of ships that are likely to spawn, you columns number of 4 is way too big. If three ships spawn, they spawn and sail line abreast. But do you need 4 ships to form and make the convoy stable for the formation you gave it..

I would test these two things..

Reduce column formation to 1 and make at least 1 other merchant in the convoy spawn 100% of the time."

tater · 07-03-07, 08:16 AM

Hehe. Credit to jace11. I DID dream about it though, I must have forgotten it in the mass of posts, and remembered it in a dream.

<S> Jace11!

tater

Mush Martin · 07-03-07, 08:18 AM

Ah to sleep per chance to dream those little slices of death
how I loathe them as they take away my Gametime.

Bando · 07-03-07, 08:34 AM

To dream, the impossible dream...........

Glad you did

reg
Bando

Stealth Hunter · 07-07-07, 12:40 PM

I misread the title and thought it said "STD's".

:rotfl:

tater · 07-07-07, 02:43 PM

The pharmacist's mate has a clinic at 4pm, you should see him.

tater

07-01-07, 03:26 PM	#1
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	[TEC] Mystery of mission related CTDs solved! A note to people creating missions with random groups: Columns in random groups must be equal or less than the lowest possible number of ships in the group. The formation allows a number of columns, and a spacing to be set. The number of columns can never be less than the number of ships or it CTDs every time. I have this in my layers because I attempted to create a wide variety of random formations with a single group. I mad them with many many ships listed in some cases, with each ship of a low order of probability. So you might well see a TF with 20+ ships, but 5 might be more likely, and as few as 2 might be possible (if extremely unlikely). I let the automated campaign editor pick random spacing and columns to mix things up. If a convoy generates 2 ships, and is set to 3 columns, BOOM! Version 0.68 will be out shortly with all of this fixed. Thanks to Jace11 (yet again). He actually pointed out this as a possible problem a few days ago, somehow I missed it. Last edited by tater; 07-03-07 at 09:19 AM.

07-02-07, 12:07 AM	#4
azn_132 Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 950 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thxs for the info, useful for my changin the RND layas. __________________

07-02-07, 06:56 AM	#5
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Well done Tater, Tough to find no doubt. M __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

07-03-07, 08:18 AM	#9
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Ah to sleep per chance to dream those little slices of death how I loathe them as they take away my Gametime. __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

07-01-07, 04:04 PM	#2
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	It was something I'd not do intentionally, but I didn't think of it when I ran the zig-zag code and let it randomize a few other things too, lol.

07-01-07, 08:02 PM	#3
Bando Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Location: Where you don't see me Posts: 607 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Great find Tater

07-02-07, 07:48 AM	#6
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I actually had a dream about it, check an old version with the convoy that CTDs bando all the time, and there it was in my face. tater

07-03-07, 07:30 AM	#7
Jace11 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 683 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 1	Came to you in a dream...? On page 8 of your campaign layers thread... "Also, judging by the number of ships that are likely to spawn, you columns number of 4 is way too big. If three ships spawn, they spawn and sail line abreast. But do you need 4 ships to form and make the convoy stable for the formation you gave it.. I would test these two things.. Reduce column formation to 1 and make at least 1 other merchant in the convoy spawn 100% of the time."

07-03-07, 08:16 AM	#8
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Hehe. Credit to jace11. I DID dream about it though, I must have forgotten it in the mass of posts, and remembered it in a dream. <S> Jace11! tater

07-03-07, 08:34 AM	#10
Bando Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Location: Where you don't see me Posts: 607 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	To dream, the impossible dream........... Glad you did reg Bando

07-07-07, 12:40 PM	#11
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I misread the title and thought it said "STD's". :rotfl:

07-07-07, 02:43 PM	#12
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	The pharmacist's mate has a clinic at 4pm, you should see him. tater