Our tax dollars at work

Yahoshua · 06-20-07, 08:07 PM

Hamas lists seized U.S. weapons

Your tax dollars at work. By Aaron Klein for WorldNetDaily.com (thanks to Sr. Soph):

JAFFA, Israel – Hamas members today provided WND a preliminary list of what they claimed were hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. weaponry and equipment seized during last week's coup against the U.S.-backed Fatah security organizations of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. Hamas vowed to obtain emergency U.S. aid slated for Fatah.
Last week, Hamas took complete control of all Fatah positions and U.S.-backed security compounds in the Gaza Strip, including Fatah's major Ansar complex – where American-provided weapons were delivered and stored – and Abbas' presidential guard complex.
The U.S. in recent years reportedly transferred large quantities of weaponry to build up Fatah forces against rival Hamas. Hamas officials told WND in multiple interviews they would seize the American weapons.

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Wonderful, just wonderful knowing that our tax dollars have been put to good use funding terrorism.

Reaves · 06-20-07, 09:16 PM

Wait, so supplying weapons to a group backfired on the US? Deja vu?

CCIP · 06-21-07, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaves

Wait, so supplying weapons to a group backfired on the US? Deja vu?

Iceman · 06-21-07, 12:46 AM

Kick em while they're up, Kick em while they're down...people love it when you lose, they love dirty laundry.

Glad we could amuse you...

Don't make a move, you may make a mistake.

CCIP · 06-21-07, 01:01 AM

Uh, this isn't about making moves, this is about making obviously stupid moves and assuming that the enemy of your enemy is always your friend. You'd think there's been enough precedents to learn a lesson by now...

Iceman · 06-21-07, 01:23 AM

CCIP do you know what they say about opinions here in America?

CCIP · 06-21-07, 01:51 AM

Yep. (They're like ______, everyone has one).

But does anyone (besides Fatah) actually believe giving Fatah weapons is a good idea? :hmm:

Skybird · 06-21-07, 04:22 AM

That some cents of the taxes I pay end up with "aid funds" for Palestinians makes me angry. American finances may expect to be used for weapons, and may even hope to be used for fighting Hamas. European funds are seriously expecting that they are being spend on paying wages, schools, hospitals, food... so who is the greater fool, america or Europe? Truth is both are acting insane, and without link to reality.

Since it is Shia Iran versus Sunni Arab world, let the Arab League come up for the support of the Palestinians, they can EASILY afford it, and their interst in preventing Shia dominance is at least as great as ours. Every dollar we pay in their place - is one dollar they pump into mosques and missionary centres in Europe instead of helping their beloved brothers and sisters.

Oh wait, i forgot that Palestinians due to their bad behavior in Jordan are disliked throughout the Arab world... too bad for them.

No EU funds for Palestine anymore, please.

Skybird · 06-21-07, 05:18 AM

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...489898,00.html

Take this only as a reminder, a factual description, no need to have a politcal debate about this.

Maybe you want to think twice before supporting a group/president who obviously does not act any betteer than those the EU and Washington consider to be the bad guys. There are no "good" factions the West should wish to join with. We owe not being associated with these people to the ideals and values for which we claim to stand by our history and cultural identity.

If dogs with rabies start to bite and fight - stay out of their way.

The Avon Lady · 06-21-07, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

people love it when you lose, they love dirty laundry.

NEVER!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...489898,00.html

Abu Mazen in his own words.

bradclark1 · 06-21-07, 08:50 AM

If you can't kill um, try and buy um.

tycho102 · 06-21-07, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaves

Wait, so supplying weapons to a group backfired on the US? Deja vu?

Obviously not for the politicans involved with the sale. They're like goldfish.

Heibges · 06-21-07, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman

Kick em while they're up, Kick em while they're down...people love it when you lose, they love dirty laundry.

Glad we could amuse you...

Don't make a move, you may make a mistake.

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Heibges · 06-21-07, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman

CCIP do you know what they say about opinions here in America?

I think the saying you guys are looking for is "Hindsight is 20/20."

Takeda Shingen · 06-21-07, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heibges

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman

CCIP do you know what they say about opinions here in America?

I think the saying you guys are looking for is "Hindsight is 20/20."

No, I'm pretty sure that's not the one.

06-20-07, 08:07 PM	#1
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Our tax dollars at work Hamas lists seized U.S. weapons Your tax dollars at work. By Aaron Klein for WorldNetDaily.com (thanks to Sr. Soph): JAFFA, Israel – Hamas members today provided WND a preliminary list of what they claimed were hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. weaponry and equipment seized during last week's coup against the U.S.-backed Fatah security organizations of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. Hamas vowed to obtain emergency U.S. aid slated for Fatah. Last week, Hamas took complete control of all Fatah positions and U.S.-backed security compounds in the Gaza Strip, including Fatah's major Ansar complex – where American-provided weapons were delivered and stored – and Abbas' presidential guard complex. The U.S. in recent years reportedly transferred large quantities of weaponry to build up Fatah forces against rival Hamas. Hamas officials told WND in multiple interviews they would seize the American weapons. ================================================== ===== Wonderful, just wonderful knowing that our tax dollars have been put to good use funding terrorism. __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

06-20-07, 09:16 PM	#2
Reaves The Old Man Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,509 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Wait, so supplying weapons to a group backfired on the US? Deja vu? __________________

06-21-07, 01:01 AM	#5
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Uh, this isn't about making moves, this is about making obviously stupid moves and assuming that the enemy of your enemy is always your friend. You'd think there's been enough precedents to learn a lesson by now... __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

06-21-07, 01:51 AM	#7
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Yep. (They're like ______, everyone has one). But does anyone (besides Fatah) actually believe giving Fatah weapons is a good idea? :hmm: __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

06-21-07, 04:22 AM	#8
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,604 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	That some cents of the taxes I pay end up with "aid funds" for Palestinians makes me angry. American finances may expect to be used for weapons, and may even hope to be used for fighting Hamas. European funds are seriously expecting that they are being spend on paying wages, schools, hospitals, food... so who is the greater fool, america or Europe? Truth is both are acting insane, and without link to reality. Since it is Shia Iran versus Sunni Arab world, let the Arab League come up for the support of the Palestinians, they can EASILY afford it, and their interst in preventing Shia dominance is at least as great as ours. Every dollar we pay in their place - is one dollar they pump into mosques and missionary centres in Europe instead of helping their beloved brothers and sisters. Oh wait, i forgot that Palestinians due to their bad behavior in Jordan are disliked throughout the Arab world... too bad for them. No EU funds for Palestine anymore, please. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-21-07, 12:46 AM	#4
Iceman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mesa AZ, Arizona, USA Posts: 1,253 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Kick em while they're up, Kick em while they're down...people love it when you lose, they love dirty laundry. Glad we could amuse you... Don't make a move, you may make a mistake.

06-21-07, 01:23 AM	#6
Iceman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mesa AZ, Arizona, USA Posts: 1,253 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	CCIP do you know what they say about opinions here in America?

06-21-07, 05:18 AM	#9
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,604 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	http://www.spiegel.de/international/...489898,00.html Take this only as a reminder, a factual description, no need to have a politcal debate about this. Maybe you want to think twice before supporting a group/president who obviously does not act any betteer than those the EU and Washington consider to be the bad guys. There are no "good" factions the West should wish to join with. We owe not being associated with these people to the ideals and values for which we claim to stand by our history and cultural identity. If dogs with rabies start to bite and fight - stay out of their way. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 06-21-07 at 07:52 AM.

06-21-07, 08:50 AM	#11
bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	If you can't kill um, try and buy um.