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Old 06-20-07, 02:39 PM   #1
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Default The American Lefts silly victim complex

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Here’s the real problem with American liberalism: there is no such thing, not really. What we call American liberalism is really a kind of genetic mutant, a Frankenstein’s monster of incongruous parts – a fat, affluent, overeducated New York/Washington head crudely screwed onto the withering corpse of the vanishing middle-American manufacturing class. These days the Roosevelt stratum of rich East Coasters are still liberals, but the industrial middle class that the New Deal helped create is almost all gone. In 1965, manufacturing jobs still made up 53 percent of the US economy; that number was down to nine percent in 2004, and no one has stepped up to talk to the 30 million working poor who struggle to get by on low-wage, part-time jobs.
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Old 06-20-07, 02:48 PM   #2
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that was very intellectual... I feel a lot smarter now... Thank you so much. Glad i'm not a pinko commie liberal. right right
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LOL. Liberals love America like OJ loved Nicole. I gotta admit...that's just right on the mark.
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Thus, the people who are the public voice of American liberalism rarely have any real connection to the ordinary working people whose interests they putatively champion. They tend instead to be well-off, college-educated yuppies from California or the East Coast...

Look at the candidates for the nomination for president of the US. Everyone fits this definition. In fact all their quote, champions, unquote fit the definition. When is the liberal left, progressive, movement going to awaken from their slumber and see the hypocricracy of their so called leaders?
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Since when have any Presidential candidates had a "real connection to ordinary working people"?

Why is it bad for candidates to be college-educated....?

And it's fairly rich to accuse the Dems of this without thinking of the GOP. Honestly.
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Since when have any Presidential candidates had a "real connection to ordinary working people"?

Why is it bad for candidates to be college-educated....?

And it's fairly rich to accuse the Dems of this without thinking of the GOP. Honestly.
Nothing wrong with any of that. My issue is with the liberal 'champions' saying that they speak for and are one of the people when they are not .

I ask again; When is the liberal left, progressive, movement going to awaken from their slumber and see the hypocricracy of their so called leaders? Honestly.

PS I don't know of anyone accusing the GOP of being anything other than be well-off, college-educated. Like you said nothing wrong with that.
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The American left confuses me very much. It is VERY diffrent from the European leftas is the notion of the right wing in America.
It's prahaps the main reason I don't engage at all in Amrtical internal polotics.


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Good points.

This increasing mindset has caused what were normally quite poor, yet working, Americans to emmigrate en masse from the Democratic party to the Republican party in the past few decades.
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When is the liberal left, progressive, movement going to awaken from their slumber and see the hypocricracy of their so called leaders?
To be a real lefty leader you have to be poor?
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When is the liberal left, progressive, movement going to awaken from their slumber and see the hypocricracy of their so called leaders?
To be a real lefty leader you have to be poor?
Dunno about that but I now know that they have to be hypocricracable.
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When is the liberal left, progressive, movement going to awaken from their slumber and see the hypocricracy of their so called leaders?
To be a real lefty leader you have to be poor?
Dunno about that but I now know that they have to be hypocricracable.
Well hell, thats politicians in general from the president down on both sides of the isle down to your local mayor.
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When is the liberal left, progressive, movement going to awaken from their slumber and see the hypocricracy of their so called leaders?
To be a real lefty leader you have to be poor?
No but telling working class people to do without air conditioners while owning a home that consumes enough electricity to power a small city is going to be seen as a tad hypocritical don'cha think?
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And so the downward spiral begins.

Read here, people: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=117082

Discuss the merits of liberalism as you wish, but keep it cool. My finger is on the lock button.
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No but telling working class people to do without air conditioners while owning a home that consumes enough electricity to power a small city is going to be seen as a tad hypocritical don'cha think?
I'm assuming you are talking about Gore. I've not heard him say that.
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