Do I buy SH4 or not?

OBarbas · 06-09-07, 09:59 AM

I started with SH 1 playing it at my desk in the office without sound in the early '90s. SH 4 returns to the Pacific ... I want it! but ... the forums have spooked me. Is it bugged to death? I mean, it is enjoyable to play or a nightmare? Should I buy it ... or should I try SH3?

tater · 06-09-07, 10:02 AM

Patched to 1.2 it's pretty enjoyable, particularly modded. 1.3 promises to fix the worst remaining bugs.

I'd buy it.

BTW, if you do, install it, and patch to 1.2 BEFORE playing the game. Don't it after any installation. Install. Patch. THEN play. That seems to help reduce some crashes that were apparently related to installation/patching. Many have no crashes, a few of us have the rare CTD. I think that constant crash issues are probably hardware related in some way.

Packerfan · 06-09-07, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tater

Patched to 1.2 it's pretty enjoyable, particularly modded. 1.3 promises to fix the worst remaining bugs.

I'd buy it.

What tater said. Even with the remaining bugs I'm still having a blast.

Welcome to the forums!

orangenee · 06-09-07, 10:26 AM

It's still enjoyable with 1.2, but some things don't work properly yet, but when 1.3 eventually arrives (may be a while) it should be even better.

Sailor Steve · 06-09-07, 10:32 AM

Read the latest review, then decide.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=116441

Boris · 06-09-07, 11:16 AM

It depends how picky or tolerant you are. If you can look past certain bugs it can be fun. But there are too many little things which still ruin it for me.

OBarbas · 06-09-07, 07:07 PM

Thanks for the input guys! My boat will be submerged soon!

cheers
OB

dean_acheson · 06-10-07, 07:26 PM

Buy it.

It's great.

OBarbas · 06-10-07, 11:20 PM

Queen's Birthday today in Australia and all the shops are closed.

I will install the game and run the 1.2 patch before playing as instructed. But I also see mention of mods that improve play. Which mods would you suggest? (haven't search Subsim site for links to mods but I'm sure I'll find them).

Cheers
OB

NefariousKoel · 06-10-07, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OBarbas

Queen's Birthday today in Australia and all the shops are closed.

I will install the game and run the 1.2 patch before playing as instructed. But I also see mention of mods that improve play. Which mods would you suggest? (haven't search Subsim site for links to mods but I'm sure I'll find them).

Cheers
OB

For an All-In-One mod, I can recommend the Trigger Maru mod as it doesn't drastically change a whole lot. It does have much less enemy targets than stock, though, so you will be hunting more than vanilla. That being said, it fixes numerous issues with v1.2.

I modified it a bit to my tastes, but try out vanilla first then read the ReadMe for the mod to see what it's changed and see if you would prefer it.

Indiana_Jones · 06-11-07, 12:32 AM

I might grab SH4 when the price drops. ($100NZD atm, which is the going price of new games here), got SH3 for $25

-Indy

Steeltrap · 06-12-07, 07:32 AM

OBarbas, where are you in Aus?

I'm in Sydney - you can have my copy....I'll sell it to you at reduced $$ vs. retail.

USS_shipmaster · 06-13-07, 11:19 AM

Untill patch 1.2 was released it was unplayable...

After 1.3 patch will be released buying it is a must!

Even with 1.2 patch it is in OK/good status.

If you are good in elementary math you will enjoy manual targeting as I do.
When patch 1.3 will add some features like “assisted method” to determine the target’s speed when playing with the manual targeting option set to “ON”, to simulate the firing party putting together subsequent range checks from the captain and solve some bugs like ship dimensions in the game config files,small conversion error with the stadimeter when using “imperial system” , the submarine radars (SD, SJ) bugs, campaign retirement bug and AI behaviour improvement the SH4 will worth all bucks u spend on it.
* AI impromement was made by beautiful mods of sirs Beery and Decimious .
They made brilliant patches, even too brilliant :-)
Bottomline: After 1.3 will released and with Beery/Decimous & Co works Wolves of the Pacific is the simulator you must to have on your PC.

ghost_666_rider · 06-13-07, 03:38 AM

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Care to post some screenshots?

Pardon my ignorance, hardware is my thing. Uploaded a quickie but don't know how to incorporate it into here. Resolution still low, framerate suffers if I go any higher. (at least till second card gets off backorder) Filters off with 6X AA. (sharper image IMHO)

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5...1256xaaly9.jpg

bruschi sauro · 06-13-07, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBarbas

I started with SH 1 playing it at my desk in the office without sound in the early '90s. SH 4 returns to the Pacific ... I want it! but ... the forums have spooked me. Is it bugged to death? I mean, it is enjoyable to play or a nightmare? Should I buy it ... or should I try SH3?

Try SH3 with GWX 1.03

SH4 is a ocean of bugs forget it.....

06-09-07, 09:59 AM	#1
OBarbas Watch Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 22 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Do I buy SH4 or not? I started with SH 1 playing it at my desk in the office without sound in the early '90s. SH 4 returns to the Pacific ... I want it! but ... the forums have spooked me. Is it bugged to death? I mean, it is enjoyable to play or a nightmare? Should I buy it ... or should I try SH3?

06-09-07, 10:32 AM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Read the latest review, then decide. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=116441 __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-10-07, 11:20 PM	#9
OBarbas Watch Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 22 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Which mods? Queen's Birthday today in Australia and all the shops are closed. I will install the game and run the 1.2 patch before playing as instructed. But I also see mention of mods that improve play. Which mods would you suggest? (haven't search Subsim site for links to mods but I'm sure I'll find them). Cheers OB

06-13-07, 11:19 AM	#13
USS_shipmaster Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New York Posts: 114 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Untill patch 1.2 was released it was unplayable... After 1.3 patch will be released buying it is a must! Even with 1.2 patch it is in OK/good status. If you are good in elementary math you will enjoy manual targeting as I do. When patch 1.3 will add some features like “assisted method” to determine the target’s speed when playing with the manual targeting option set to “ON”, to simulate the firing party putting together subsequent range checks from the captain and solve some bugs like ship dimensions in the game config files,small conversion error with the stadimeter when using “imperial system” , the submarine radars (SD, SJ) bugs, campaign retirement bug and AI behaviour improvement the SH4 will worth all bucks u spend on it. * AI impromement was made by beautiful mods of sirs Beery and Decimious . They made brilliant patches, even too brilliant :-) Bottomline: After 1.3 will released and with Beery/Decimous & Co works Wolves of the Pacific is the simulator you must to have on your PC. __________________ All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others" G.O.

06-09-07, 10:02 AM	#2
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Patched to 1.2 it's pretty enjoyable, particularly modded. 1.3 promises to fix the worst remaining bugs. I'd buy it. BTW, if you do, install it, and patch to 1.2 BEFORE playing the game. Don't it after any installation. Install. Patch. THEN play. That seems to help reduce some crashes that were apparently related to installation/patching. Many have no crashes, a few of us have the rare CTD. I think that constant crash issues are probably hardware related in some way.

06-09-07, 10:26 AM	#4
orangenee Engineer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 211 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It's still enjoyable with 1.2, but some things don't work properly yet, but when 1.3 eventually arrives (may be a while) it should be even better.

06-09-07, 11:16 AM	#6
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	It depends how picky or tolerant you are. If you can look past certain bugs it can be fun. But there are too many little things which still ruin it for me.

06-09-07, 07:07 PM	#7
OBarbas Watch Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 22 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the input guys! My boat will be submerged soon! cheers OB

06-10-07, 07:26 PM	#8
dean_acheson Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Midwest - USA Posts: 1,057 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	Buy it. It's great.

06-11-07, 12:32 AM	#11
Indiana_Jones Machinist's Mate Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 126 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I might grab SH4 when the price drops. ($100NZD atm, which is the going price of new games here), got SH3 for $25 -Indy

06-12-07, 07:32 AM	#12
Steeltrap Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 818 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	OBarbas, where are you in Aus? I'm in Sydney - you can have my copy....I'll sell it to you at reduced $$ vs. retail.