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Old 05-30-07, 11:28 AM   #1
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I got this wild idea at work today (actually came out of boredom, but thats beside the point - and I have 10 copies of both Vista and Office 2007 Enterprise so I might as well try it out on something) to upgrade my main work machine to Vista and Office 2007. I ran the Beta's and the Beta's were more flash than substance, and it seems nothing has changed with the release version.

Anyway, I'll report on what I see later on. So far, I am un-impressed. Office 2007 is loading while I write this though, and that looks like a major change over Office 2003, so that may be worth the upgrade. Vista, so far, is not worth the upgrade.

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Old 05-30-07, 12:07 PM   #2
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Vista, so far, is not worth the upgrade.
Yeah, sticking with XP for awhile

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Old 05-30-07, 12:16 PM   #3
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Put Office 2007 in a couple of month back...tis a tad different from 2003 but you sharp cotton on to the differences.
Vista...yuk, no thanks....sticking with XP Pro till at least the end of this year.
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I'm in the process of ordering parts for a system upgrade, and as I don't have an XP CD and Vista is $20 cheaper, I've decided to go with it...(32-bit version though).
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Old 05-30-07, 01:31 PM   #5
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This upgrade is starting to become extremely painful!!!

I loaded a simple old terminal emulator, it failed to install completley, and now upon reboot, Vista hangs at the welcome startup screen with its damn blue circle going around and round forever! What a POS OS!

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Old 05-30-07, 01:32 PM   #6
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It won't even boot in safe mode! Going for my first Vistal repair install. nice.

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Old 05-30-07, 02:02 PM   #7
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Well a restore worked. Now I'm back where I was before I installed my last driver. I guess its better than redoing the whole system.
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Old 05-30-07, 02:02 PM   #8
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All I can say is I received a new Dell Lattitude D820 notebook a few weeks ago, preloaded with Vista Business 32 bit. I installed Office 2003. No problems whatsoever, except that I could only get the MAILTO protocol to be assigned to MS Outlook by manually editing the Windows Registry (known problem).

I'm playing SH4 on this. Nothing but smooth sailing.
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Old 05-30-07, 03:54 PM   #9
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Well, I made the app work. I let it partially install and hang so that it at least wrote the registry keys, then copied over the installation from another installation off an XP box, changed the registry license key, pulled up an XP version of it and wrote the config files, and then transfered them into the Vista versions directory, and then pulled the dll's off an XP install and dropped them into Vista's System32 directory. It runs and is configured correctly and I hope I don't need to change the configuration because simply writing the file hangs the app in Vista, so I have to use an XP box and do it the hard way again.

Next I have to tackle VPN and I already know that my VPN appliance that I use requires a deterministic network driver be installed along with the VPN app on client systems. Red flags already anyone? Yeah - it won't install. Time to find a workaround like above.

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PS. To AL - I only wish I had to do only Word and the occasional game of SHIV! (insert much envy here) - But even you needed to use a hack to make something work!
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Sounds to me like you got a seriously messed up install of Vista/Office.

Running both here with absolutely no problems what so ever (keeping my hand on a big wooden bench :rotfl: ) and have been for a few weeks now.
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Sounds to me like you got a seriously messed up install of Vista/Office.

Running both here with absolutely no problems what so ever (keeping my hand on a big wooden bench :rotfl: ) and have been for a few weeks now.
Nah - not messed up at all. Just application compatibility issues. Not much has changed since I ran the Betas either.

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Vista Home Premium has been up and running on my P4 3.0 ghz PC for seven weeks now ... very happy with it now. At first I had a few problems with MS Office 2000 premium, but if the computer shuts down wrong or won't boot to desktop and you have to put in the Vista DVD ... the OS will ask you if you would like for them to find a solution online for you.

I said what the heck and clicked check for a solution. Vista downloaded the solution and installed it and I've had no problems since.

Purchased a Dell laptop (mid April) Inspiron 1505 Intel duo core 1.86 with 2GB DDR2 ... typing on it right now because my PC 19" monitor went out three days ago.

Great notebook, great multi-media, really good OS Vista Home Premium, no problems yet.

Come on in gang the water is great ... two HDD's with XP Pro standing by for over seven (7) weeks now ...
probably will wipe them clean to use for external back up.
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Vista Home Premium has been up and running on my P4 3.0 ghz PC for seven weeks now ... very happy with it now. At first I had a few problems with MS Office 2000 premium, but if the computer shuts down wrong or won't boot to desktop and you have to put in the Vista DVD ... the OS will ask you if you would like for them to find a solution online for you.

I said what the heck and clicked check for a solution. Vista downloaded the solution and installed it and I've had no problems since.

Purchased a Dell laptop (mid April) Inspiron 1505 Intel duo core 1.86 with 2GB DDR2 ... typing on it right now because my PC 19" monitor went out three days ago.

Great notebook, great multi-media, really good OS Vista Home Premium, no problems yet.

Come on in gang the water is great ... two HDD's with XP Pro standing by for over seven (7) weeks now ...
probably will wipe them clean to use for external back up.
Good to hear it is working. I wouldn't trust it just yet myself however - especially on DRM type issues and older apps.

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As for Vista..

I recently got another 2x512MB RAM kit for one of my customers. It perfectly matches the others in it. Since they still had 2 DIMM slots available, it should've worked great.

Unfortunately, it runs absolutely horrid and I'm lucky to have WinVista load within 20 minutes. It's possible that the Motherboard is the issue (and I have little love of Intel boards) but I'm beginning to believe their Vista is the issue since I've tried different brands in it and it never works with all 4 slots filled... only 2.

I could be wrong but ... F Vista. Oh, and F Intel Motherboards.
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As for Vista..

I recently got another 2x512MB RAM kit for one of my customers. It perfectly matches the others in it. Since they still had 2 DIMM slots available, it should've worked great.

Unfortunately, it runs absolutely horrid and I'm lucky to have WinVista load within 20 minutes. It's possible that the Motherboard is the issue (and I have little love of Intel boards) but I'm beginning to believe their Vista is the issue since I've tried different brands in it and it never works with all 4 slots filled... only 2.

I could be wrong but ... F Vista. Oh, and F Intel Motherboards.
I wouldn't run it with less than 1 GB. 1.5 GB is probably like running Windows XP on 512 MB. Make sure you have at least 2 GB if you plan to play a game like SHIV. The more I play around with it, the more of a resource hog I see it is, and for what? Flashy graphics? XP is the better OS as far as I can see so far. Does the same thing, minus the ability to hit a button and see what windows are running all in a staggered 3D row - oops, I forgot, you can add this capability to XP too with a simple add on!

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