Please Sticky This Important!

CaptainCox · 05-17-07, 04:13 AM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=114540
For you guys that might not always visit the SH3 modding section. I think this should be a sticky here as well, as there are some pretty important stuff being discussed here.

CaptainCox · 05-17-07, 12:41 PM

BUMP! @mods

MaxT.dk · 05-17-07, 01:01 PM

I might be incorrect, but I don't see a problem that the posted thread talks about here in SH4 MOD forum... It might be me being blind, but I simply didn't see any problems yet...

CaptainCox · 05-17-07, 01:07 PM

I just would like more ppl to join this discussion, and not all ppl check the SH3 forum. This discussion is important for the "total" SH modding scene and I think the more ppl that adds ideas to this the better.

Ducimus · 05-17-07, 01:08 PM

I know i participated in that thread, but i just have to say....

Too much politics over there. Im hoping we keep it simple here. Over there in the SH3 modding, theres a long running history of copious amounts of drama that's more related to interpersonal issues then modding itself. This is one reason i enjoy modding SH4 so much. Its a fresh start with no hidden drama or background agenda's to deal with.

MaxT.dk · 05-17-07, 01:08 PM

Roger that, over

CaptainCox · 05-17-07, 01:16 PM

Thing is, i am sure that this discussion will have "implications/solutions" what ever you want to call that for ALL SH modding related matters. So if there is important...developments I just think ppl in the SH4 section should be aware of it...that's all.

danlisa · 05-17-07, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

I know i participated in that thread, but i just have to say....

Too much politics over there. Im hoping we keep it simple here. Over there in the SH3 modding, theres a long running history of copious amounts of drama that's more related to interpersonal issues then modding itself. This is one reason i enjoy modding SH4 so much. Its a fresh start with no hidden drama or background agenda's to deal with.

Yes, you maybe right but SH3 started the way SH4 has. I'm affraid that eventually SH4 may end up the same way.

It will be inevitable especially as history tends to repeat itself.

Ducimus · 05-17-07, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danlisa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

I know i participated in that thread, but i just have to say....

Too much politics over there. Im hoping we keep it simple here. Over there in the SH3 modding, theres a long running history of copious amounts of drama that's more related to interpersonal issues then modding itself. This is one reason i enjoy modding SH4 so much. Its a fresh start with no hidden drama or background agenda's to deal with.

Yes, you maybe right but SH3 started the way SH4 has. I'm affraid that eventually SH4 may end up the same way.

It will be inevitable especially as history tends to repeat itself.

The entire situation over there is a result of the mod wars between two rival factions. We dont have that here, and hopefully never will. Sh3 modding to me is forever tainted by it, and frankly i see the current "ethics" thread over there as just another play for more power and clout. Not a conicidence its been instigated by a social clich that is tantamount to a special interest group. Too much politics.

I came here to make the game better, not haggle over personal glory.

My 2 cents. Instant this place gets drama remincent of the Sh3 modding past, im outta here.

danlisa · 05-17-07, 01:39 PM

I hope you're right but do you not see an eventuality where there will be modding teams each aiming to produce the best package?

I really think it's a sure thing, it's the natural evolution, from many individual mods to a couple of 'supermods'.

Nothing more than that really and some of the nasties may or may not come with it.

Ducimus · 05-17-07, 01:57 PM

Well, right now theres me and Berry. Ive been doing my best to stay out of his end of the swimming pool and not make any snide comments Hell, i even offered to help him with something. He turned me down, but i did try to extend the offer as to keep the ice from forimg. He has his aims, i have mine, and ive been doing my best to respect that. Hopefuly he does the same, and as so far (I think) he has. I honestlly dont think anyone wants to see a factionalization based on mod pack.

At any rate, im just going to keep hoping the air in this forum remains clear with free creativity without all the little stuff like. Worries of plagurims or, withholding information from the community on how to better the game so your mod pack looks that much better and/or so the other guy doesnt use it first to do the same. Withholding mods or how to create said mods from the community never sat well with me.

By and large, REAL ethical issues are minority incidents on subsim. Since ive been posting on Subsim, I can recall only a grand total of THREE, at best. I really think the best way to handle ethics is simply to not plagurize, and look at possible plagurisaztion on a case by case basis. Its not like its a common occurerence here.

MaxT.dk · 05-17-07, 02:51 PM

.oO( someone should close or del this thread before ppl go nuts... )

Ducimus · 05-17-07, 03:34 PM

Im surpised it hasnt already. After what i just said, i expect a 400 pound gorlilla to jump on my back at any moment.

U-Bones · 05-17-07, 03:37 PM

Nothing on this end of the pool a good patch wouldn't fix

CaptainCox · 05-17-07, 03:41 PM

Oh well... I guess it has served its purpose. Anyhow for anyone interested the discussion will go on in the SH3 Mods Workshop Forum.

05-17-07, 04:13 AM	#1
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Please Sticky This Important! http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=114540 For you guys that might not always visit the SH3 modding section. I think this should be a sticky here as well, as there are some pretty important stuff being discussed here. __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

05-17-07, 12:41 PM	#2
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	BUMP! @mods __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

05-17-07, 01:01 PM	#3
MaxT.dk Rough night at Langtrees brothel Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 480 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I might be incorrect, but I don't see a problem that the posted thread talks about here in SH4 MOD forum... It might be me being blind, but I simply didn't see any problems yet... __________________ http://maxt.dk/archives/2007/03/22/s...nter-4-cheats/ Get KillerSub MOD and bring the Hell back to Earth! The FUN way to play SH4! Now with Rail Guns!

05-17-07, 01:07 PM	#4
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I just would like more ppl to join this discussion, and not all ppl check the SH3 forum. This discussion is important for the "total" SH modding scene and I think the more ppl that adds ideas to this the better. __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

05-17-07, 01:08 PM	#6
MaxT.dk Rough night at Langtrees brothel Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 480 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Roger that, over __________________ http://maxt.dk/archives/2007/03/22/s...nter-4-cheats/ Get KillerSub MOD and bring the Hell back to Earth! The FUN way to play SH4! Now with Rail Guns!

05-17-07, 01:08 PM	#5
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I know i participated in that thread, but i just have to say.... Too much politics over there. Im hoping we keep it simple here. Over there in the SH3 modding, theres a long running history of copious amounts of drama that's more related to interpersonal issues then modding itself. This is one reason i enjoy modding SH4 so much. Its a fresh start with no hidden drama or background agenda's to deal with.

05-17-07, 01:16 PM	#7
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Thing is, i am sure that this discussion will have "implications/solutions" what ever you want to call that for ALL SH modding related matters. So if there is important...developments I just think ppl in the SH4 section should be aware of it...that's all. __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

05-17-07, 01:39 PM	#10
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	I hope you're right but do you not see an eventuality where there will be modding teams each aiming to produce the best package? I really think it's a sure thing, it's the natural evolution, from many individual mods to a couple of 'supermods'. Nothing more than that really and some of the nasties may or may not come with it. __________________

05-17-07, 01:57 PM	#11
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Well, right now theres me and Berry. Ive been doing my best to stay out of his end of the swimming pool and not make any snide comments Hell, i even offered to help him with something. He turned me down, but i did try to extend the offer as to keep the ice from forimg. He has his aims, i have mine, and ive been doing my best to respect that. Hopefuly he does the same, and as so far (I think) he has. I honestlly dont think anyone wants to see a factionalization based on mod pack. At any rate, im just going to keep hoping the air in this forum remains clear with free creativity without all the little stuff like. Worries of plagurims or, withholding information from the community on how to better the game so your mod pack looks that much better and/or so the other guy doesnt use it first to do the same. Withholding mods or how to create said mods from the community never sat well with me. By and large, REAL ethical issues are minority incidents on subsim. Since ive been posting on Subsim, I can recall only a grand total of THREE, at best. I really think the best way to handle ethics is simply to not plagurize, and look at possible plagurisaztion on a case by case basis. Its not like its a common occurerence here.

05-17-07, 02:51 PM	#12
MaxT.dk Rough night at Langtrees brothel Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 480 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	.oO( someone should close or del this thread before ppl go nuts... ) __________________ http://maxt.dk/archives/2007/03/22/s...nter-4-cheats/ Get KillerSub MOD and bring the Hell back to Earth! The FUN way to play SH4! Now with Rail Guns!

05-17-07, 03:34 PM	#13
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Im surpised it hasnt already. After what i just said, i expect a 400 pound gorlilla to jump on my back at any moment.

05-17-07, 03:37 PM	#14
U-Bones Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Treading Water Posts: 847 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	Nothing on this end of the pool a good patch wouldn't fix

05-17-07, 03:41 PM	#15
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Oh well... I guess it has served its purpose. Anyhow for anyone interested the discussion will go on in the SH3 Mods Workshop Forum. __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE