Taking damage for no reason

kakemann · 04-28-07, 11:15 AM

Hi!

I'm trying to understand why my sub sometimes takes damage while attacking convoys or task forces. I've experienced it a couple of times now.

One of my experiences:

I saved a game before attacking a task force. I was lying at all stop,perscopedepth waiting for the fuso battlehip to pass. I had a Porpoise sub. When i got a nice fireangle i fired 4 torpedoes at it, and 2 aft against a nearby destroyer. I hit the battleship 3 times and the destroyer with both torpedoes. went to 40 metres.still all stop.

A nearby destroyer started moving towards me, but was far away. after a minute or so the sub suddenly started to take damage. the destroyer was as i said far away.
I got serios damage and sank to the bottom.

As I said, I saved just before so I loaded the game again. This time I did the exact same thing. But I went to free cam view to see that none of my torpedoes hit me. Right after I hit the ships the exact thing happened again. I suffered damage and sank.

Anyone experienced this?
Is it a possible fix?
Thanks anyway!

Redwine · 04-28-07, 11:21 AM

I experience some similar behaviour but after a severe bulkhead damage, even when it is showed as reapired.

I will give more atention to Porposise sub now... if i can see some interesting i will commnt here. I had used the Porpoise too much.

AVGWarhawk · 04-28-07, 11:24 AM

I experience this phenom today!!! I was damage a little by aircraft. Bulkhead minor damage. I got under the convoy at 250 feet. This might have been my demise. How deep are you when this happens?

kakemann · 04-28-07, 11:34 AM

I'm using metric system.. 40 metres. Thats 131 feet. Not very deep.

Could it be the porpoise sub which causes this abnormal behavior?
I'll try a clean install of the game now without any mods. I'll try to load from the same place again. Kept my savegames before uninstalling.

I was running the increased crushdepths mod and realistic batterylife mod.

Will try without any mods

Will post again soon

kakemann · 04-28-07, 11:35 AM

Are you guys running any mods?

AVGWarhawk · 04-28-07, 11:42 AM

I think I'm running the Salmon class. Only mods are the green light mod, reduced radio traffic and the texture mod for the depth/speed/heading guage.

kakemann · 04-28-07, 12:05 PM

Ooops!

After I uninstalled the game and reinstalled again. The game won't let me load the old savegame I was talking about. Probably because I'm now running a clean install with no mods. Ohh. well. I have to start over again and see if it happens again. I'll add this thread to my subsctiptions to see if anyone else experience this - and I'll post back here if I experience anything new now.

Redwine · 04-28-07, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kakemann

Ooops!

After I uninstalled the game and reinstalled again. The game won't let me load the old savegame I was talking about. Probably because I'm now running a clean install with no mods. Ohh. well. I have to start over again and see if it happens again. I'll add this thread to my subsctiptions to see if anyone else experience this - and I'll post back here if I experience anything new now.

Waiting...

I tested Porpoise, with no damage, and dive many times near the crush depth, maintaining sug few hours at those depths, and no evidence of suddently damage.

After take some Bulkhead damage, and bulkhead repaired, and Hull intact message.... no red bars on bulkheads... i attempt to dive... 30, 35, 40 ,45.... up to 70meters.

Stay there many minutes and suddently a full colapse ... sub loss. :hmm:

I thnik so we need to recover the hull stress percent from SH 3, or almost have some kind of advetence, like as..."Hull severelly stressed..sir ! dive not reccomended."

kakemann · 04-28-07, 12:32 PM

Was that a option on SH3?

I never heard that?

Was the game modded then?

Herr Karl · 04-28-07, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kakemann

Was that a option on SH3?

I never heard that?

Was the game modded then?

Hull integrity as a percentage is an option in SH3 as a realism setting.

kakemann · 04-28-07, 12:50 PM

Hmm! Ohhh. Yes I remember... In the Crew compartment

So it would seem that when already sustained damage the sub would not take deepdives. Just like SH3.

Then I guess it's quite obvious that this is not a bug. Just that the hull integrity thing is not displayed, right!

Wonder if it is possible to make a mod of this?

SteamWake · 04-28-07, 12:52 PM

Saving while submerged can cause some issues.

AVGWarhawk · 04-28-07, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Saving while submerged can cause some issues.

True! My incident was during a game play of 1 hour. No saves. She went down for no reason.....bummer.

kakemann · 04-28-07, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Saving while submerged can cause some issues.

True! My incident was during a game play of 1 hour. No saves. She went down for no reason.....bummer.

Has this one been confirmed by many here? :hmm:

SteamWake · 04-28-07, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kakemann

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Saving while submerged can cause some issues.

True! My incident was during a game play of 1 hour. No saves. She went down for no reason.....bummer.

Has this one been confirmed by many here? :hmm:

SH3 had similar issues.

04-28-07, 11:15 AM	#1
kakemann Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pretty close to the big german cruiser Blücher in Norway Posts: 568 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Taking damage for no reason Hi! I'm trying to understand why my sub sometimes takes damage while attacking convoys or task forces. I've experienced it a couple of times now. One of my experiences: I saved a game before attacking a task force. I was lying at all stop,perscopedepth waiting for the fuso battlehip to pass. I had a Porpoise sub. When i got a nice fireangle i fired 4 torpedoes at it, and 2 aft against a nearby destroyer. I hit the battleship 3 times and the destroyer with both torpedoes. went to 40 metres.still all stop. A nearby destroyer started moving towards me, but was far away. after a minute or so the sub suddenly started to take damage. the destroyer was as i said far away. I got serios damage and sank to the bottom. As I said, I saved just before so I loaded the game again. This time I did the exact same thing. But I went to free cam view to see that none of my torpedoes hit me. Right after I hit the ships the exact thing happened again. I suffered damage and sank. Anyone experienced this? Is it a possible fix? Thanks anyway! __________________ My SH4 releases compatible with SH4 1.5 and earlier: Kakemann and ATR-42's Silent Hunter 4 Music FIX Kakemann and Lurker_hlb3 Destroyer sensors and radar FIX Tutorial: How to add new music tracks to SH4

04-28-07, 11:21 AM	#2
Redwine Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Martin de los Andes, Neuquen, , Argentina. Posts: 1,962 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I experience some similar behaviour but after a severe bulkhead damage, even when it is showed as reapired. I will give more atention to Porposise sub now... if i can see some interesting i will commnt here. I had used the Porpoise too much. __________________ . "SH III and SH IV Mods" "Manual TDC Tutorial" "SH2 Downloads Selection"

04-28-07, 11:24 AM	#3
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I experience this phenom today!!! I was damage a little by aircraft. Bulkhead minor damage. I got under the convoy at 250 feet. This might have been my demise. How deep are you when this happens? __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-28-07, 11:34 AM	#4
kakemann Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pretty close to the big german cruiser Blücher in Norway Posts: 568 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I'm using metric system.. 40 metres. Thats 131 feet. Not very deep. Could it be the porpoise sub which causes this abnormal behavior? I'll try a clean install of the game now without any mods. I'll try to load from the same place again. Kept my savegames before uninstalling. I was running the increased crushdepths mod and realistic batterylife mod. Will try without any mods Will post again soon __________________ My SH4 releases compatible with SH4 1.5 and earlier: Kakemann and ATR-42's Silent Hunter 4 Music FIX Kakemann and Lurker_hlb3 Destroyer sensors and radar FIX Tutorial: How to add new music tracks to SH4

04-28-07, 11:35 AM	#5
kakemann Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pretty close to the big german cruiser Blücher in Norway Posts: 568 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Are you guys running any mods? __________________ My SH4 releases compatible with SH4 1.5 and earlier: Kakemann and ATR-42's Silent Hunter 4 Music FIX Kakemann and Lurker_hlb3 Destroyer sensors and radar FIX Tutorial: How to add new music tracks to SH4

04-28-07, 11:42 AM	#6
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I think I'm running the Salmon class. Only mods are the green light mod, reduced radio traffic and the texture mod for the depth/speed/heading guage. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-28-07, 12:05 PM	#7
kakemann Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pretty close to the big german cruiser Blücher in Norway Posts: 568 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Ooops! After I uninstalled the game and reinstalled again. The game won't let me load the old savegame I was talking about. Probably because I'm now running a clean install with no mods. Ohh. well. I have to start over again and see if it happens again. I'll add this thread to my subsctiptions to see if anyone else experience this - and I'll post back here if I experience anything new now. __________________ My SH4 releases compatible with SH4 1.5 and earlier: Kakemann and ATR-42's Silent Hunter 4 Music FIX Kakemann and Lurker_hlb3 Destroyer sensors and radar FIX Tutorial: How to add new music tracks to SH4

04-28-07, 12:32 PM	#9
kakemann Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pretty close to the big german cruiser Blücher in Norway Posts: 568 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Was that a option on SH3? I never heard that? Was the game modded then? __________________ My SH4 releases compatible with SH4 1.5 and earlier: Kakemann and ATR-42's Silent Hunter 4 Music FIX Kakemann and Lurker_hlb3 Destroyer sensors and radar FIX Tutorial: How to add new music tracks to SH4

04-28-07, 12:50 PM	#11
kakemann Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pretty close to the big german cruiser Blücher in Norway Posts: 568 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Hmm! Ohhh. Yes I remember... In the Crew compartment So it would seem that when already sustained damage the sub would not take deepdives. Just like SH3. Then I guess it's quite obvious that this is not a bug. Just that the hull integrity thing is not displayed, right! Wonder if it is possible to make a mod of this? __________________ My SH4 releases compatible with SH4 1.5 and earlier: Kakemann and ATR-42's Silent Hunter 4 Music FIX Kakemann and Lurker_hlb3 Destroyer sensors and radar FIX Tutorial: How to add new music tracks to SH4

04-28-07, 12:52 PM	#12
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Saving while submerged can cause some issues.