For 9/11 Conspiracy nutters! This for U

[kiwi_2005]

Taken from another forum the guy who put this up is (was) so anti 9/11 a true believer in the USA govenment setup 9/11 blah blah yet this article CHANGED his views and now he realised how wrong he was. Time magazine has just published a story entitled "Why the 9/11 conspiracy theories won't go away". Apparently 1/3 of the American population has bought into various conspiracy theories (call it the X-files effect). According to psychologists, people simply need grand "DaVinci Code" like explanations for tragic events. Our minds simply can't grasp how something of this magnitude could occur, without a corresponding grand theory to explain it all. THE TRUTH.... ITS OUT THERE!

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...1304-1,00.html

I wasn't aware that there were any 9/11 nutters on here?:hmm:

I've read the article, but this is an article based on the writers "theory" of how the rest of the world is making up conspiracy theories about 9/11.

Most of us know that the planes were responsible for the damage and lives taken that day. I think the "conspiracy theory" that most of us "nutters" agree on is that the government doesn't have a good defense on this and for the fact that they knew about this PRIOR to the event and did not do a thing to try and stop it from happening. This is just as bad as doing it yourself. For instance, if I knew someone was about to be killed and did nothing to try and stop it I would be found just as guilty as the killer in a court of law.

This is why I think several people in the Bush administration should be put behind bars and this includes Bush. Since he was the head honcho at the time he should be found guilty of dereliciton to duty for not attempting at least to stop the act. Several senior officials have stated that there was plenty of creditable evidence and reports from the CIA and NCIS and other foriegn intelligence agencies that the US was going to be hit by a terrorist act on that day by the usage of commercials planes. Why wasn't security boosted at ALL US airports that week for Christ sake? That would have been the least Bush and his administration could have done to prevent that day from ever happening. Notice how Bush was on a trip down in Florida that day and not at the Whitehouse! Maybe he didn't want to be there for a reason?

Bush reminds me of the pompas a-hole mayor of Amity Island in the Jaws movie. Notice how that A-hole wanted to keep the beaches open AFTER the shark had already killed people! It was all about making money and Bush is no different. All he cares about is his fat wallet getting ever fatter with his greed. May he rot in hell for all eternity!

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

This is why I think several people in the Bush administration should be put behind bars and this includes Bush. Since he was the head honcho at the time he should be found guilty of dereliciton to duty for not attempting at least to stop the act.

Ain't gonna happen. But anyway, do you think we should put Clinton in jail for the years he let terrorism happen and did nothing to stop those acts? How about Clinton's refusal to put security in our national labratories? How about Clinton categorizing military space applications as dual use...basically giving China the keys to the kingdom? How about label FDR a criminal posthumously for not stopping the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor? Dude, you are a lost soul. You totally have no clue whatsoever.

At any rate, this isn't so hard to figure out. 1/3 of the voting population are hardcore lefties. They are nuts. They shouldn't be walking the streets. They should be in padded cells getting medication.

[Ishmael]

I don't think they planned the attack but I do believe they were aware of the very distinct possibility and ignored the plethora of warnings because a catastrophic attack suited their purposes in wanting to invade Iraq. Consider what we know:

1.The Project For a New American Century publishes an article in the mid-90's calling for an invasion of Iraq and recognizing that it will probably take "A Pearl Harbor-type event" to rally the nation for such an invasion.

2.According to Richard Clarke, the Bush transition team didn't want to hear about al-Qaeda and wanted only briefings on Iraq. At the same time, they hosted emissaries from the Taliban in order to secure an oil pipeline deal to connect the oil fields of Central Asia to the Indian subcontinent. They promote closer ties to Pakistan and their Interservices Intelligence Agency who not only financed and promoted the Taliban but also had members linked to providing money to the 9/11 hijackers.

3. As the 9 months between the inauguration and the attack unfold, Clarke's group is demoted and ignored. Meanwhile, alarm bells are sounding around the nation as FBI reports Muslim men taking flight school instructions only in flying without training in take-offs or landings. According to Woodward's new book, Condoleeza Rice as National Security Advisor is told in July by both Tenant and Negroponte that al-Qaeda is planning an attack in the US using hijacked airliners as weapons. We also have the Presidential Daily Briefing in August warning of similar attacks. All of these warnings are ignored and minimized.

4.The attacks happen and the US goes into Afghanistan. However, they use local surrogate militias under the alleigance of local warlords allowing the top al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders to escape Tora Bora into Pakistan's Northwest Frontier.

5. Taliban and al-Qaeda prisoners that are captured are tortured, providing unreliable information that is used by the Bush administration to make their case for the war in Iraq. Rumsfeld draws down troop levels from Afghanistan and prepares to invade Iraq.

6. The US goes into Iraq with the fig leaf of the Coalition of the Willing. The Army they send is enough to defeat the Iraqi Army, but not enough to secure order in the country.
They disband the Iraqi Army and send the troops home with their arms while looting breaks out. Rumsfeld dismisses the looting as normal. The Coalition Provisional Authority is organised to run Iraqi reconstruction, but the main Hiring executive, Jim O'Beirne is more interested in hiring Bush loyalists than in hiring expeienced and competent people with backgrounds in such reconstruction. Halliburton and other US corporations are given no-bid contracts. In the ensuing months, billions of dollars disappear. The companies tasked with reconstruction hire people from other third-world countries instead of Iraqis fueling the growth of the insurgency.

7. As the insurgency developsand increases, Rumsfeld and the Bush Admin. deny it is occuring. Meanwhile, US troops spend their time in an endless cycle of clearing insurgents out of towns then move on only to have the insurgents come back as US troop strength is not large enough to hold what has already been secured. Meanwhile, the Abu Ghraib Scandal breaks further fueling the insurgency. Even though evidence and photos show that the torture is authorised by the highest levels of the DOD and the Bush Admin, and that private contracors/mercenaries from Blackwater are present during the tortue sessions, no officer, contractor or civilian official is ever punished or even charged. In the ensuing Courts-martial of the reservist enlisted men tried. The General in charge of interrogations for Iraq and Guantanamo Bay invokes his 5th amendment rights against self-incrimination.

8. throughout all of this, The Republican controlled congress never has one hearing of oversight on any of these issues, essentially becoming a rubber-stamp for the administration's increasingly failed and incompetent actions and policies.

There's more I can point to, but my fingers are cramping. Is it any wonder that any reasonably intelligent person familiar with the history might think that it was an inside job?

[ASWnut101]

Sure Ishmael, we caused 9/11 to happen so bush could kill Iraqis. You apparently don't realize that OBL's plans to bring down the world trade center were around in the 1980's, when Ronald Regan was in office. then in 1993, under the Clinton administration, the first WTC attacks occured. What did Clinton do? get laid with Monica, and refused to kill OBL 3(THREE) times. then under pressure from the Monica scandal, he threw a TLAM at him, which obviously didn't work. he is more responsible for 9/11 than bush will ever be.


Now, which story sounds more crazy?

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by ASWnut101

Sure Ishmael, we caused 9/11 to happen so bush could kill Iraqis. You apparently don't realize that OBL's plans to bring down the world trade center were around in the 1980's, when Ronald Regan was in office. then in 1993, under the Clinton administration, the first WTC attacks occured. What did Clinton do? get laid with Monica, and refused to kill OBL 3(THREE) times. then under pressure from the Monica scandal, he threw a TLAM at him, which obviously didn't work. he is more responsible for 9/11 than bush will ever be.


Now, which story sounds more crazy?

No. Wait a minute. You forgot Bush invaded Iraq for the sole purpose to steal their oil and enrich his friends at halliburton. I think that's how it goes.

[ASWnut101]

Oh, yeah!

cant forget that

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

I wasn't aware that there were any 9/11 nutters on here?:hmm:

Good point. I apologise if subsimmers think im saying ya 9/11 nutters, Ive never read a anti 9/11 on subsim either, i thought i would just put it up as their are anti 9/11's out there.

Maybe we can just have a good laugh at these ppl:hmm:

[ASWnut101]

Maby!

Apparently 1/3 of the American population has bought into various conspiracy theories (call it the X-files effect).

These are the same people who believe Al Gore won the 2000 presidential election, and also couldn't get their vote right in the same election. Now we know.

They also believe in UFOs, the holocaust didn't happen, life begins at 60, and when all else fails punt.

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Ain't gonna happen. But anyway, do you think we should put Clinton in jail for the years he let terrorism happen and did nothing to stop those acts? How about Clinton's refusal to put security in our national labratories? How about Clinton categorizing military space applications as dual use...basically giving China the keys to the kingdom? How about label FDR a criminal posthumously for not stopping the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor? Dude, you are a lost soul. You totally have no clue whatsoever.

At any rate, this isn't so hard to figure out. 1/3 of the voting population are hardcore lefties. They are nuts. They shouldn't be walking the streets. They should be in padded cells getting medication.

Of course your lopsided views have led you to admit that you and your radical ideals would do this to your fellow countrymen! You are one sick puppy Sea Demon, I've got to hand it to you!

You are probably the kid that used to burn ants alive with your dad's magnify glass. Sick sick sick!

Originally Posted by waste gate

These are the same people who believe Al Gore won the 2000 presidential election, and also couldn't get their vote right in the same election. Now we know.

They also believe in UFOs, the holocaust didn't happen, life begins at 60, and when all else fails punt.

Just like Republicans believe in make believe WMD, the war in Iraq is a good thing, and that the 2000 election wasn't fixed by Bush and his thieving party!

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

Of course your lopsided views have led you to admit that you and your radical ideals would do this to your fellow countrymen! You are one sick puppy Sea Demon, I've got to hand it to you!

You are probably the kid that used to burn ants alive with your dad's magnify glass. Sick sick sick!

No, I think most believe that insane people need hospitalization.

Then I suppose it's off to the hospital for you then! :rotfl:

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

Then I suppose it's off to the hospital for you then! :rotfl:

How old are you? 12?