Terrorist pipe bomb found in Austin

[Tchocky]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/met...e.33e70f3.html

It's OK, the target was an abortion clinic. No need to report it.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/met...e.33e70f3.html

It's OK, the target was an abortion clinic. No need to report it.

I always find it amusing how these people think they are saving lives by killing and maming other people to do it. Real smarties we are dealing with there! (sarcasm...choke choke)

[Heibges]

Extremists are extremists wherever you go it seems. Like that dude in Crime & Punishment. If I kill this old lady, my life will be better.

[fatty]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I always find it amusing how these people think they are saving lives by killing and maming other people to do it. Real smarties we are dealing with there! (sarcasm...choke choke)

Do you mean the terrorists or abortion doctors?

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by fatty

Do you mean the terrorists or abortion doctors?

You are crossing the line on the subject of the thread and turning it into an abortion debate. I will not be dragged into debate on the issue since my foot sits somewhere in the direct middle. I cannot stand the idea of the government telling me or my wife what we can or can't do with our bodies, and I can't stand the idea of half developed children, especially nearly developed partial birth abortions. To me, both carry equal weight in an almost agonizing fasion. The only way to deal with it is to allow abortions and then hope people have enough sense to avoid using the service, putting them out of business. Of course in our selfish and me me me liberal world, this is not ever going to happen anytime soon.

Now you know my views on it. We have a typical catch 22 scenario with this one. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

-S

[fatty]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

You are crossing the line on the subject of the thread and turning it into an abortion debate. I will not be dragged into debate on the issue since my foot sits somewhere in the direct middle. I cannot stand the idea of the government telling me or my wife what we can or can't do with our bodies, and I can't stand the idea of half developed children, especially nearly developed partial birth abortions. To me, both carry equal weight in an almost agonizing fasion. The only way to deal with it is to allow abortions and then hope people have enough sense to avoid using the service, putting them out of business. Of course in our selfish and me me me liberal world, this is not ever going to happen anytime soon.

Now you know my views on it. We have a typical catch 22 scenario with this one. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

-S

Truthfully your views are close to coinciding with mine. Just wanted clarification on that (dangerously?) ambiguous post Back on topic...

Last year, the group documented four attempted bombing and arson attacks; 11 assaults against abortion providers and one kidnapping. Such attacks have been on the wane, Saporta said, a phenomena she attributes to tougher federal laws and better training for abortion personnel.

That's very startling to me. I heard about none of those; but then again, I don't hear much crime at all out of the U.S.

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

You are crossing the line on the subject of the thread and turning it into an abortion debate. I will not be dragged into debate on the issue since my foot sits somewhere in the direct middle. I cannot stand the idea of the government telling me or my wife what we can or can't do with our bodies, and I can't stand the idea of half developed children, especially nearly developed partial birth abortions. To me, both carry equal weight in an almost agonizing fasion. The only way to deal with it is to allow abortions and then hope people have enough sense to avoid using the service, putting them out of business. Of course in our selfish and me me me liberal world, this is not ever going to happen anytime soon.

Now you know my views on it. We have a typical catch 22 scenario with this one. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

-S

The same thing happened with Skybirds capital punishment thread.

When contentious threads are posted, contentious answers will be posted.
Some will say that the abortion of one million people anually in the US is a legitimate reason for violence against those who cause those deaths. Others will say that that abortion is legal and a legitimate choice in the US, and any deaths to those who are acting in a legal manner are acts of terror.

I have my beliefs on the subject and if you search for it you will find which side I take. I will leave you with this:

Slavery was legal in the US until 1863. The elimination of 'undesirables 'was legal in Germany in the mid-20th century.

[Tchocky]

Ok my intent in posting this was* - Is anyone else suprised at the lack of news coverage given to this domestic terrorism? Is it only newsworthy when they are foreign?

* - but the thread can go anywhere within reason, of course

[Enigma]

Ok my intent in posting this was* - Is anyone else suprised at the lack of news coverage given to this domestic terrorism? Is it only newsworthy when they are foreign?

Correct. In this country when people commit acts of Terrorism, they are loners, play video games, etc, etc. Had it been a muslim, it would be on TV for days and Bush would call it a victory in the war on Terrorism.

[Heibges]

The Government did go pretty much balls to the wall to catch the abortion clinic bomber who also bombed the Atlanta Olympics though.

[U-533]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Ok my intent in posting this was* - Is anyone else suprised at the lack of news coverage given to this domestic terrorism? Is it only newsworthy when they are foreign?

* - but the thread can go anywhere within reason, of course

No not surprised at all Tchocky

This is Abortion ........ and the Media is for Abortion ........ so why give air time to the opposition

Funny the Media never shows the remains of babies that have been murdered.

Media is also anti-Bush and Bush is anti-abortion.

Throw in a few rap stars and a crazy gunman some gay people on parade and it would be on the tube for weeks.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by U-533

No not surprised at all Tchocky

This is Abortion ........ and the Media is for Abortion ........ so why give air time to the opposition

Funny the Media never shows the remains of babies that have been murdered.

Media is also anti-Bush and Bush is anti-abortion.

Throw in a few rap stars and a crazy gunman some gay people on parade and it would be on the tube for weeks.

Hahahahahahaha! That is so true! Funniest thing I have read all morning!

[Enigma]

..... and the Media is for Abortion .......

Reflecting the stupidity of this argument....

Noone is for abortion.

Media is also anti-Bush and Bush is anti-abortion.

It couldnt be that the vast majority of the country is anti Bush, could it? Nooooo!

[Tchocky]

Oh, some more terrorists.
Again, this doesnt need to be reprted, they're white and Christian.

Sweet Home Alabama

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Ok my intent in posting this was* - Is anyone else suprised at the lack of news coverage given to this domestic terrorism? Is it only newsworthy when they are foreign?

* - but the thread can go anywhere within reason, of course

Are this isolated incidents by individuals or small groups of people with their own deviant ideas of what's right and wrong or are these events part of a bigger organization or massive movement that none of us are yet aware of?

To answer your question: yes, these are very newsworthy items but what's a nation to do with all the feuding going on in Washington these days! That all that gets to the main pages, so it seems.

BTW, can anyone dig up the statistics on how many bombs and bomb scares there are throughout the year in the US and break them down by supposed motives? That would be of general interest, I would think.

I did find this in this news article of the incident:

"This was the first bombing attempt this year at an abortion clinic, according to the National Abortion Federation, which tracks violence against abortion providers.

Four incidents of attempted bombing or arson were reported in 2006, the NAF said. More than 40 abortion clinic bombings have occurred since 1977, with the last reported in 2001."