Being Rammed at 160 foot depth

Florida Sailor · 04-07-07, 08:23 AM

In the career mode, I was in Tokyo Bay at a depth of 160 feet and as a convoy passed overhead, I was rammed by a merchant. Does anyone know what is going on with that?
I played and loved Silent Hunter 1 and the drafts of the targets were accurate enough to easily pass under them.

con20or · 04-07-07, 08:53 AM

I havent played the game yet, so i dont know what the ships are like, but remember that the depth is your depth below keel, so it starts from the bottom of your boat, not the top. So there is 160 Ft from the bottom of your boat to the surface of the sea. So you have to minus the height of your boat from that.

Secondly, there are (roughly) three and one third feet in a metre, so your depth is about 45metres. I dont know how big the ship was, but if it was loaded it might have a draft of say 10-12 metres if it was a big one??

Seems kind of strange, did you have your periscope up?? Maybe it hit that.

Gildor · 04-07-07, 08:57 AM

Or maybe you were running into a sunk ship or aground on the bottom? Maybe a sub-net?

Florida Sailor · 04-07-07, 09:02 AM

I am new to the forum. What do you mean by sign with an "X"?

con20or · 04-07-07, 09:04 AM

That just my signature

It shows up on all my posts. I gotta change it soon, it's boring me!

Florida Sailor · 04-07-07, 09:06 AM

I was not moving and had been in place for over 20 minutes at 160ft. As the merchant passed overhead, I was rammed and sunk.

con20or · 04-07-07, 09:09 AM

Were you watching the external view? Did you see the merchant hit you?

Quillan · 04-07-07, 09:09 AM

Did you have one of your periscopes raised to the top? The keel on most of the US boats ran about 15 feet deep when surfaced. I'm not sure what the height of the top of the retracted periscope was above the keel, but just an estimation from the game I'd have to guess about 30-50 feet. If it was extended, it might have been clipped by a deep draft ship, especially if the seas were rough.

Mush Martin · 04-07-07, 09:13 AM

Maybe its a lower extension of that division down the middle
of a ship that prevents freecam from flying directly over
the model but extending downwards too far.

do you know at all what kind of ship rammed you?

drewsbu · 04-07-07, 09:15 AM

I didn't know Tokyo bay had a depth of 160ft.

Florida Sailor · 04-07-07, 09:15 AM

Both Scopes were down. I play at the high difficulty setting, so no camera was available. Sonar indicated the merchant was approaching and as it passed over I was SUNK.

It was the approach to Tokyo Bay, I pinged at 100 feet and had 98 feet below me, so I went to 160 to be safe from the approaching convoy.

con20or · 04-07-07, 09:22 AM

Strange one that, i presume this game doesnt have ships towing things to damage subs with?? I saw them in a movie, dunno how realistic they were.

Sailor Steve · 04-07-07, 10:41 AM

Periscope depth on a fleet boat was about 65 feet. At 160 feet you should have no chance of being rammed, except by another submarine.

Something is definitely wrong.

hyperion2206 · 04-07-07, 11:31 AM

I've never been to Tokio nor did I have a look at the map that came with my DE but could it be that the Japanese mined the waters around Tokio? It would be logical to lay mines at a certain depth to prevent submerged subs to enter this vital by.

NEON DEON · 04-07-07, 11:39 AM

Maybe the merchant depth charged you.

Don't laugh. Some did carry depth charges.

04-07-07, 08:23 AM	#1
Florida Sailor Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seffner, Florida Posts: 81 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Being Rammed at 160 foot depth In the career mode, I was in Tokyo Bay at a depth of 160 feet and as a convoy passed overhead, I was rammed by a merchant. Does anyone know what is going on with that? I played and loved Silent Hunter 1 and the drafts of the targets were accurate enough to easily pass under them.

04-07-07, 08:53 AM	#2
con20or Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 269 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I havent played the game yet, so i dont know what the ships are like, but remember that the depth is your depth below keel, so it starts from the bottom of your boat, not the top. So there is 160 Ft from the bottom of your boat to the surface of the sea. So you have to minus the height of your boat from that. Secondly, there are (roughly) three and one third feet in a metre, so your depth is about 45metres. I dont know how big the ship was, but if it was loaded it might have a draft of say 10-12 metres if it was a big one?? Seems kind of strange, did you have your periscope up?? Maybe it hit that. __________________ QA Lead on Scourge of War - http://www.scourgeofwar.com/index.shtml (98% rating on Armchair general) - http://www.armchairgeneral.com/scour...ame-review.htm SoW Waterloo Announced for 2015!!

04-07-07, 08:57 AM	#3
Gildor Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 251 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Or maybe you were running into a sunk ship or aground on the bottom? Maybe a sub-net? __________________ U-46: Oct 1943 off Portugal

04-07-07, 09:02 AM	#4
Florida Sailor Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seffner, Florida Posts: 81 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Sign with an "X" ? I am new to the forum. What do you mean by sign with an "X"?

04-07-07, 09:04 AM	#5
con20or Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 269 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	That just my signature It shows up on all my posts. I gotta change it soon, it's boring me! __________________ QA Lead on Scourge of War - http://www.scourgeofwar.com/index.shtml (98% rating on Armchair general) - http://www.armchairgeneral.com/scour...ame-review.htm SoW Waterloo Announced for 2015!!

04-07-07, 09:06 AM	#6
Florida Sailor Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seffner, Florida Posts: 81 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Wasn't Moving I was not moving and had been in place for over 20 minutes at 160ft. As the merchant passed overhead, I was rammed and sunk.

04-07-07, 09:09 AM	#7
con20or Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 269 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Were you watching the external view? Did you see the merchant hit you? __________________ QA Lead on Scourge of War - http://www.scourgeofwar.com/index.shtml (98% rating on Armchair general) - http://www.armchairgeneral.com/scour...ame-review.htm SoW Waterloo Announced for 2015!!

04-07-07, 09:09 AM	#8
Quillan Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 579 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Did you have one of your periscopes raised to the top? The keel on most of the US boats ran about 15 feet deep when surfaced. I'm not sure what the height of the top of the retracted periscope was above the keel, but just an estimation from the game I'd have to guess about 30-50 feet. If it was extended, it might have been clipped by a deep draft ship, especially if the seas were rough. __________________ We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

04-07-07, 09:13 AM	#9
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Maybe its a lower extension of that division down the middle of a ship that prevents freecam from flying directly over the model but extending downwards too far. do you know at all what kind of ship rammed you? __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

04-07-07, 09:15 AM	#10
drewsbu Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I didn't know Tokyo bay had a depth of 160ft.

04-07-07, 09:22 AM	#12
con20or Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 269 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Strange one that, i presume this game doesnt have ships towing things to damage subs with?? I saw them in a movie, dunno how realistic they were. __________________ QA Lead on Scourge of War - http://www.scourgeofwar.com/index.shtml (98% rating on Armchair general) - http://www.armchairgeneral.com/scour...ame-review.htm SoW Waterloo Announced for 2015!!

04-07-07, 10:41 AM	#13
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Periscope depth on a fleet boat was about 65 feet. At 160 feet you should have no chance of being rammed, except by another submarine. Something is definitely wrong. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-07-07, 11:31 AM	#14
hyperion2206 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I've never been to Tokio nor did I have a look at the map that came with my DE but could it be that the Japanese mined the waters around Tokio? It would be logical to lay mines at a certain depth to prevent submerged subs to enter this vital by. __________________ Career of Captain Jack Shaftoe:

04-07-07, 11:39 AM	#15
NEON DEON Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,207 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 5	Maybe the merchant depth charged you. Don't laugh. Some did carry depth charges. __________________ Diesel Boats Forever!