SH4 3d model viewer?

yllekm · 04-02-07, 02:40 PM

Anyone know of a 3d model viewer that can render the ship models in SH4? I have an idea I would like to explore for a future version of the recognition manual I have been developing. I tried searching the forum but it's damn hard right now (I am on my (non-broadband) BlackBerry).

04-02-07, 03:42 PM

Unless you extract the object files, no.
Museum is as close as your gonna get for now.

yllekm · 04-02-07, 04:10 PM

Okay, is there a tool to extract the object files? If so, how could I then view the 3d objects? What about texture calls - would the objects be textured or flat-shaded?

04-02-07, 04:16 PM

Pack3d will still work, Thank goodness!!
Deep exploration will view the model parts with textures.
(It's what I use)
But, it's not free.
Demo last for 30 days maybe?

skwasjer · 04-02-07, 08:04 PM

Working on it:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/9841082745

It's not public yet because I only just started it. Ideas and suggestions welcome.

04-02-07, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

Pack3d will still work, Thank goodness!!
Deep exploration will view the model parts with textures.
(It's what I use)
But, it's not free.
Demo last for 30 days maybe?

How about a download link?

04-02-07, 09:37 PM

http://www.righthemisphere.com/

here you go.
I don't think I could work as fast without this!!
It can view and convert 3D objects
and images!!!
Very good at DDS to TGAs and Vise versa!

04-02-07, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

http://www.righthemisphere.com/

here you go.
I don't think I could work as fast without this!!
It can view and convert 3D objects
and images!!!
Very good at DDS to TGAs and Vise versa!

Thanks.

I had a hard time finding it on their site. This is a more direct download link:
http://www.righthemisphere.com/suppo...=2983810311086

04-02-07, 11:24 PM

Privateer, is there any way to export the sub interior 3d objects? I can't seem to export them with Pack3d. :hmm:

04-02-07, 11:27 PM

You mean from Vanilla Sh3 right?
Never tried but I'll look into it.

yllekm · 04-02-07, 11:38 PM

Just so you know why I want this...

I have been developing a standalone recognition manual for SH4 (early version posted here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109868 - so far only the Japanese ships done). I am using the same silhouette images the in-game recog manual uses, but they are low resolution and only provide 0, 45 and 90 degree views. It works, but it's not pretty and could be much better/useful if I could create my own silhouettes.

I could take shots in the museum but lighting is bad for what I want to do and things are moving/rolling so it is hard to get a shots from exactly the same elevation and angle, etc., plus the game doesn't run with antialiasing yet which really makes the shots useless.

I would have more control over lighting and motion if I set things up in the mission editor and loaded the missions in the game to take the shots, but I would still have the antialiasing problem and wouldn't have the precise camera control I want.

A viewer like the one skwasjer is working on would be IDEAL for what I want to do. Not only could I greatly improve the recognition manual, I could create new entries for any new ships modded in to SH4.

Features I am hoping for:

- A co-ordinates system that displays the spatial/angular relationship between the camera and the object (to reproduce the same camera location for several different models and know precisely what angle/elevation/distance I am viewing the object from relative to its longitudinal axis).

- Control over lighting placement, intensity, colour, number of sources, etc.

- Ability to easily substitute alternate textures (e.g. to substitute a cleaned-up version of the overly rusty King George V texture in SH4).

I will take a look at Deep but the price is way outa my league for producing a little hobbyist manual for a sub simulator.

04-02-07, 11:42 PM

Deep X is only for looking at extracted models.
It will not look into the dat.
Also, if you extract a multi-skinned ship,
you will need to edit the extracted object file
to point to the T01 or what have you.

yllekm · 04-02-07, 11:51 PM

Deep is probably not what I am looking for then, but I sure am excited about skwasjer's project.

04-02-07, 11:55 PM

@NVDRIFTER,
Don't know if dat extractor will do it or not.
Get with Diving Duck on this as he's the MAN!

You can pull the object file by hex, convert and write a obj file
by hand.
But I don't want to go there!!!

skwasjer · 04-03-07, 12:02 AM

I can't keep track over multiple threads though, so as soon as I got a name for this app I'll probably open up a dedicated thread in the mod-forum over here... For now, updates will be at the ubi-board.

04-02-07, 02:40 PM	#1
yllekm Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 52 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	SH4 3d model viewer? Anyone know of a 3d model viewer that can render the ship models in SH4? I have an idea I would like to explore for a future version of the recognition manual I have been developing. I tried searching the forum but it's damn hard right now (I am on my (non-broadband) BlackBerry). Last edited by yllekm; 04-02-07 at 11:46 PM.

04-02-07, 04:10 PM	#3
yllekm Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 52 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Okay, is there a tool to extract the object files? If so, how could I then view the 3d objects? What about texture calls - would the objects be textured or flat-shaded? Last edited by yllekm; 04-02-07 at 06:40 PM.

04-02-07, 03:42 PM	#2
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Unless you extract the object files, no. Museum is as close as your gonna get for now.

04-02-07, 04:16 PM	#4
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Pack3d will still work, Thank goodness!! Deep exploration will view the model parts with textures. (It's what I use) But, it's not free. Demo last for 30 days maybe?

04-02-07, 08:04 PM	#5
skwasjer The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,549 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 3	Working on it: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/9841082745 It's not public yet because I only just started it. Ideas and suggestions welcome.

04-02-07, 09:37 PM	#7
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	http://www.righthemisphere.com/ here you go. I don't think I could work as fast without this!! It can view and convert 3D objects and images!!! Very good at DDS to TGAs and Vise versa!

04-02-07, 11:24 PM	#9
nvdrifter Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Privateer, is there any way to export the sub interior 3d objects? I can't seem to export them with Pack3d. :hmm:

04-02-07, 11:27 PM	#10
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	You mean from Vanilla Sh3 right? Never tried but I'll look into it.

04-02-07, 11:38 PM	#11
yllekm Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 52 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Just so you know why I want this... I have been developing a standalone recognition manual for SH4 (early version posted here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109868 - so far only the Japanese ships done). I am using the same silhouette images the in-game recog manual uses, but they are low resolution and only provide 0, 45 and 90 degree views. It works, but it's not pretty and could be much better/useful if I could create my own silhouettes. I could take shots in the museum but lighting is bad for what I want to do and things are moving/rolling so it is hard to get a shots from exactly the same elevation and angle, etc., plus the game doesn't run with antialiasing yet which really makes the shots useless. I would have more control over lighting and motion if I set things up in the mission editor and loaded the missions in the game to take the shots, but I would still have the antialiasing problem and wouldn't have the precise camera control I want. A viewer like the one skwasjer is working on would be IDEAL for what I want to do. Not only could I greatly improve the recognition manual, I could create new entries for any new ships modded in to SH4. Features I am hoping for: - A co-ordinates system that displays the spatial/angular relationship between the camera and the object (to reproduce the same camera location for several different models and know precisely what angle/elevation/distance I am viewing the object from relative to its longitudinal axis). - Control over lighting placement, intensity, colour, number of sources, etc. - Ability to easily substitute alternate textures (e.g. to substitute a cleaned-up version of the overly rusty King George V texture in SH4). I will take a look at Deep but the price is way outa my league for producing a little hobbyist manual for a sub simulator.

04-02-07, 11:42 PM	#12
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Deep X is only for looking at extracted models. It will not look into the dat. Also, if you extract a multi-skinned ship, you will need to edit the extracted object file to point to the T01 or what have you.

04-02-07, 11:51 PM	#13
yllekm Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 52 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Deep is probably not what I am looking for then, but I sure am excited about skwasjer's project.

04-02-07, 11:55 PM	#14
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	@NVDRIFTER, Don't know if dat extractor will do it or not. Get with Diving Duck on this as he's the MAN! You can pull the object file by hex, convert and write a obj file by hand. But I don't want to go there!!!

04-03-07, 12:02 AM	#15
skwasjer The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,549 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 3	I can't keep track over multiple threads though, so as soon as I got a name for this app I'll probably open up a dedicated thread in the mod-forum over here... For now, updates will be at the ubi-board.