MS sells 20M copies of Vista in Feb

geetrue · 03-27-07, 11:34 AM

Are we the only ones not purchasing Vista? They even say that this is retail sales:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/product...s_N.htm?csp=27

Windows XP sold 17 million in it's first month ...

Kapitan_Phillips · 03-27-07, 11:35 AM

I bet they wont say how many people returned it and went back to XP

Skybird · 03-27-07, 12:04 PM

Must not mean much. Could be because no PCs today get sold without it. I know about Saturn Münster (Saturn is one of the two major electronic warehouse chains in Germany and belongs to the same corporation like infamous Media Markt) that a salesman in the PC department said the separatly available Vista copies they have in stock lay "like lead on the shelves". I know that guy, we sometimes meet for spending lunchtime breaks together. I think he knows how the sales with Vista are going in their (big) store.

Releasing high sales numbers also is a means of advertising, and undermining doubts of potential customers.

Penelope_Grey · 03-27-07, 12:21 PM

XP is rock solid, can't go wrong with it can you? And it runs everything, so Vista is just well... meh... who needs it?

JSLTIGER · 03-27-07, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Must not mean much. Could be because no PCs today get sold without it.

Agreed...the majority of those numbers are springing from PCs that are coming with Vista pre-installed...in 2001, when XP launched, 52 million PCs were sold that year. This year, there are expected to be 92 million PCs sold. The difference of 40 million PCs makes the additional Vista sales this year mostly irrelevant.

TteFAboB · 03-27-07, 01:00 PM

I'm very happy with XP. In a few months I'll build a new PC from scratch and I have no intention of installing Vista on it. Untill it's absolutely necessary I'm sticking to XP. It's great. It works just fine. And my only concern is DirectX10, though I have hope either hackers or consumer pressure will get that on XP. If anything, I'll make a Vista partition on the HD just for those things that I absolutely can't run on XP. If that's possible, of course.

But if I ever install Vista next to XP, why not switch to Vista as the main option? Because I haven't been convinced yet that Vista will increase performance. If it's just like XP, with no performance advantages, I prefer the simplicity of XP. I'm still using the Win95 Theme on XP because I find it much more practical. If I'm not using the internet or any software (Word, Outlook, etc.) I'm playing a game. Graphical gimmicks make no positive difference whatsoever. A flashy browser will distract me. A flashy Word toolbar will distract me. A flashy Outlook will annoy me. And when I'm playing a game I'm not looking at the desktop anyway.

What are, afterall, the benefits of Vista? As far as I'm aware, the only one is the new super-cool Solitaire. I'm drooling for it, but that's the most expensive Solitaire game I'd ever buy.

bookworm_020 · 03-27-07, 05:59 PM

If Vista is pre installed on a new computer, I wonder how many would change it back to XP???

I wonder how many of the sales of Vista are stand alone copies?? and how many returned???:hmm::hmm:

Sulikate · 03-27-07, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

XP is rock solid, can't go wrong with it can you? And it runs everything, so Vista is just well... meh... who needs it?

I agree. I'll wait at least 6 months more to "up"grade to vista.

Skybird · 03-27-07, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

I'm very happy with XP. In a few months I'll build a new PC from scratch and I have no intention of installing Vista on it. Untill it's absolutely necessary I'm sticking to XP. It's great. It works just fine. And my only concern is DirectX10, though I have hope either hackers or consumer pressure will get that on XP. If anything, I'll make a Vista partition on the HD just for those things that I absolutely can't run on XP. If that's possible, of course.

But if I ever install Vista next to XP, why not switch to Vista as the main option? Because I haven't been convinced yet that Vista will increase performance. If it's just like XP, with no performance advantages, I prefer the simplicity of XP. I'm still using the Win95 Theme on XP because I find it much more practical. If I'm not using the internet or any software (Word, Outlook, etc.) I'm playing a game. Graphical gimmicks make no positive difference whatsoever. A flashy browser will distract me. A flashy Word toolbar will distract me. A flashy Outlook will annoy me. And when I'm playing a game I'm not looking at the desktop anyway.

What are, afterall, the benefits of Vista? As far as I'm aware, the only one is the new super-cool Solitaire. I'm drooling for it, but that's the most expensive Solitaire game I'd ever buy.

That sums up my own attitude towards Vista very nicely. If I would buy a complete system (if!) with Vista preinstalled, I would kill the HD and install XP again. Game-wise, I have advantages over the younger ones - I am not interested much into new games any more. DX10 is the last of my concerns - as long as SBP will not getting based on it.

It very well could be that my next PC - will be just a laptop. I'm tired of the constant update merry-go-round. i also refuse to run a stronger PSU than I already operate now (550W). 1500W PSUs? Are they nuts?

Linton · 03-28-07, 03:37 AM

I returned my vista computer.It was useless,and would not talk to any of my equipment (printer,modem etc.)Dell refused to install xp on it.

tycho102 · 03-29-07, 02:46 PM

I suspect the marketing statistics are misleading if not outright false. Microsoft "leverages" computer manufacturers with their product.

Makes for a good press release, especially in reference to millions of small investors ($0.5 million in "liquid" assests) who are too busy to otherwise question the press release, much less have the knowledge to interpret it.

The Munster · 03-29-07, 04:31 PM

An article in PC Pro states Microsoft are disappointed with the sales figures of Vista so far.
Like Penelope, I am content with XP.

STEED · 03-29-07, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

I bet they wont say how many people returned it and went back to XP

Vista is a joke and a bad one at that.

STEED · 03-29-07, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Munson

An article in PC Pro states Microsoft are disappointed with the sales figures of Vista so far.
Like Penelope, I am content with XP.

The problem is one day Microsoft will stop all the updates and patches just like Win95/98 and 2000.

Until then XP rules the waves.

Linton · 03-30-07, 07:49 PM

I have just bought a mint copy of xp on ebay.The bidding was fierce-get your copy while you can!

03-27-07, 11:34 AM	#1
geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	MS sells 20M copies of Vista in Feb Are we the only ones not purchasing Vista? They even say that this is retail sales: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/product...s_N.htm?csp=27 Windows XP sold 17 million in it's first month ... __________________

03-27-07, 11:35 AM	#2
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,903 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	I bet they wont say how many people returned it and went back to XP __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.

03-27-07, 12:04 PM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Must not mean much. Could be because no PCs today get sold without it. I know about Saturn Münster (Saturn is one of the two major electronic warehouse chains in Germany and belongs to the same corporation like infamous Media Markt) that a salesman in the PC department said the separatly available Vista copies they have in stock lay "like lead on the shelves". I know that guy, we sometimes meet for spending lunchtime breaks together. I think he knows how the sales with Vista are going in their (big) store. Releasing high sales numbers also is a means of advertising, and undermining doubts of potential customers. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-27-07, 12:21 PM	#4
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	XP is rock solid, can't go wrong with it can you? And it runs everything, so Vista is just well... meh... who needs it? __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

03-27-07, 01:00 PM	#6
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I'm very happy with XP. In a few months I'll build a new PC from scratch and I have no intention of installing Vista on it. Untill it's absolutely necessary I'm sticking to XP. It's great. It works just fine. And my only concern is DirectX10, though I have hope either hackers or consumer pressure will get that on XP. If anything, I'll make a Vista partition on the HD just for those things that I absolutely can't run on XP. If that's possible, of course. But if I ever install Vista next to XP, why not switch to Vista as the main option? Because I haven't been convinced yet that Vista will increase performance. If it's just like XP, with no performance advantages, I prefer the simplicity of XP. I'm still using the Win95 Theme on XP because I find it much more practical. If I'm not using the internet or any software (Word, Outlook, etc.) I'm playing a game. Graphical gimmicks make no positive difference whatsoever. A flashy browser will distract me. A flashy Word toolbar will distract me. A flashy Outlook will annoy me. And when I'm playing a game I'm not looking at the desktop anyway. What are, afterall, the benefits of Vista? As far as I'm aware, the only one is the new super-cool Solitaire. I'm drooling for it, but that's the most expensive Solitaire game I'd ever buy. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

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bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	If Vista is pre installed on a new computer, I wonder how many would change it back to XP??? I wonder how many of the sales of Vista are stand alone copies?? and how many returned???:hmm::hmm: __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

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Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I returned my vista computer.It was useless,and would not talk to any of my equipment (printer,modem etc.)Dell refused to install xp on it. __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/

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tycho102 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,100 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I suspect the marketing statistics are misleading if not outright false. Microsoft "leverages" computer manufacturers with their product. Makes for a good press release, especially in reference to millions of small investors ($0.5 million in "liquid" assests) who are too busy to otherwise question the press release, much less have the knowledge to interpret it.

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The Munster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Deepest Dumbria Posts: 1,243 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	An article in PC Pro states Microsoft are disappointed with the sales figures of Vista so far. Like Penelope, I am content with XP. __________________ *GWX Team Member; Retired* GWX Home Page

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Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have just bought a mint copy of xp on ebay.The bidding was fierce-get your copy while you can! __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/