modding the sh3.sdl file

Laffertytig · 10-29-06, 05:31 AM

how come whenever i mod this file using mini tweaker i get a windows error message when i close SH3?

all im doin is changin the propeller sound distances

Reece · 10-29-06, 08:42 AM

That's a wierd one, never experienced it!

Maybe your sound card or possably if your doing the mods during a patrol may cause it, I always do mods (including tweaks to sh3.sdl mixer file) then start a new patrol.

I assume it only happens the first exit after tweaking, your not tweaking the file while SH3 is running are you?

Laffertytig · 10-29-06, 11:32 AM

think the problem was i wasnt rollin back sub commander b4 modding it.
but try as i might i cant i cant hear the dd's propeller any further than 300 metres. ideally id like to hear them from around 600 metres so if anyone else could send me their Sh3.sdl file that would be great

Reece · 10-30-06, 06:32 AM

Did you download & try out my SFX pack it beefs up all the sounds & some that are not mixed correctly, yes this version of my sh3.sdl file has quite a few tweaks done to it!

Readme supplied.

Redwine · 10-30-06, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laffertytig

how come whenever i mod this file using mini tweaker i get a windows error message when i close SH3?

all im doin is changin the propeller sound distances

Hi.... Laffertytig.

I know what are you doing... you can use my file, but it has the Depth Charge FX mod included.

If you dont want to use the Depth Charge FX mod.... you can take my present file, then look into the manual editing guide, and then roll back the changes made for Depth Charge FX mod... and let only the changes for propellers...

Take in consideration, the mod Depth Charge FX DO NOT has included the propellers sounds modifications....

Take in consideration, to experience the good efect i described in the old topic, you need to add the new propelles sounds collection i picked-up from SH2....

Take in consideration... SH3 do not works fine in 4.1, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 audio channels.
Because all sounds at your side or at your back experience a very hard reduction in volume.

If you want to experience the propellers sounds well, just roll back your audio channels to 2.1 Stereo.

I remember you have all the files in your hands... correct ?

If not.... what of them you need ?

Reece · 10-30-06, 09:02 AM

Hi Red, even I'm interested in the DC FX mod, can you point to DL please?

Thanks.

Laffertytig · 10-30-06, 12:09 PM

if anyone can me me how to set my audio channels to 2.1 that would be great. its a new asrock motherboard i have with onboard sound but i cant see anywhere in the configurator to change this. when i open it it says 7.1 virtual speaker shift , dunno if this is the audio channel???

yeah redwine if u could post all the sound files and sdl file u use that would be great as well

Redwine · 10-30-06, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

Hi Red, even I'm interested in the DC FX mod, can you point to DL please?

Thanks.

Rapidsh#t is colapsed now.... i will up;oad them for you as soon as posible.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laffertytig

if anyone can me me how to set my audio channels to 2.1 that would be great. its a new asrock motherboard i have with onboard sound but i cant see anywhere in the configurator to change this. when i open it it says 7.1 virtual speaker shift , dunno if this is the audio channel???

yeah redwine if u could post all the sound files and sdl file u use that would be great as well

About the files read above...

About to change 7.1 into 2.1....

May be you need to install some Audio Control Panel Utility from your motherboard installation CD.... did you checked into that CD ?

Any way, if you can, i recommend to you to install a hardaware accelerated PCI audio card, i weas having big troubles with my FPS, it was caused by my onboard SoundMax audio card, i buyed a new sound card and my FPS was launched up....

Reece · 10-30-06, 08:24 PM

I would like to know how to change to different audio channel versions just for curiosity!

I have onboard realtek AC97 and that has 7.1 audio channel, I have no problems! however I don't run the mixer as I find this uses too much resources and does nothing really for sound excepting to add echo, wide, etc. Do a search for msconfig.exe and drag a shortcut to desktop, run and goto startup tab, the list can be quite large, just look for your sound manager & untick it, the apply - ok - restart. You may know all of this but you can untick any device here if you think the device is "SUS" or don't want, also applies to 'Services' Tab (take a little care here with microsoft devices).

Hope this helps.

HEY, stop posting while I'm still editing my post Red!

:rotfl:
By the way I'ts at Rapidupload, not rapidshare, out of curiosity Red, are you using the new card or are you back to using your onboard Soundmax?

Redwine · 10-30-06, 09:56 PM

[quote=Reece] I would like to know how to change to different audio channel versions just for curiosity!

I have 3 ways... to choice the audio channels in use...

Here you can see in the 3 sites the 4.1 settings of my kid....

1]
From Windows Control Panel

2]
From Audio Card Control Panel....

3]
And from the Audo Card Manage Program

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

Do a search for msconfig.exe and drag a shortcut to desktop, run and goto startup tab, the list can be quite large, just look for your sound manager & untick it, the apply - ok - restart.

Yes...Rece, i have a shortcut for it, and always i install some program i go there to disable any undesired program to avoid to load at start up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

You may know all of this but you can untick any device here if you think the device is "SUS" or don't want, also applies to 'Services' Tab (take a little care here with microsoft devices).

Yes... i use Security Task Manager for it, and to check present proccess and disable them, i reccomend it, you have a Goggle button in the program, where you can access to a web page with a description of the proccess and with many user comments.

I recommend it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

By the way I'ts at Rapidupload, not rapidshare, out of curiosity Red, are you using the new card or are you back to using your onboard Soundmax?

No... i am using the new card, it impoves dramatically my FPS into the "bottle neck" moments....

Reece · 10-30-06, 10:31 PM

The msconfig.exe section I posted is directed at Laffertytig!

I don't have any way of changing my audio channel version, tried:
1) Sound properties in Device manager, but nothing.
2) Soundman (Realtek) in device manager & nothing there.
3) Sound properties in "Sounds and Audio Devices" from Control panel.
Maybe your sound card Red allows this, but not my onboard sound, only the motherboard manual & the printing on box is there any mention of mine having audio channel version 7.1.

could be the same for Laffertytig!
Good to hear your card is going well, you had a few problems when first installed & a little worrying as the card was quite expensive!

Cheers.

Laffertytig · 10-31-06, 03:58 AM

there is nothing in the motherboard sound config panel to change this.
the only thing i can see that is similar is under control panel, sound and audio devices, speaker settings, advanced.

i have it set at desktop stereo speakersbut there are options for 5.1 surround sound speakers, 7.1 home theatre speakers and 7.1 wide config speakers.

this wouldnt be audio channels would it?

Redwine · 10-31-06, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

The msconfig.exe section I posted is directed at Laffertytig!

I don't have any way of changing my audio channel version, tried:
1) Sound properties in Device manager, but nothing.
2) Soundman (Realtek) in device manager & nothing there.
3) Sound properties in "Sounds and Audio Devices" from Control panel.
Maybe your sound card Red allows this, but not my onboard sound, only the motherboard manual & the printing on box is there any mention of mine having audio channel version 7.1.

could be the same for Laffertytig!

Cheers.

If i not remember bad... when i had in use my onboard Soundmax it allow thes changes via the option 3 you wrote.

Control Panel > Sounds and Audio Devices > Volume Tab > Advanced Properties > Speakers > Speakers Configuration...
Sad if you cant to do it.... SH3 sounds better in 2.1 audio channels in my opinion... upper complex configurations as 4.1 or 5.1 or 7.1 meke the sounds at side or at back of your sight to near to disaperas....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

Good to hear your card is going well, you had a few problems when first installed & a little worrying as the card was quite expensive!

Right, prior to buy the card i was not sure if this card will be the solution, so i dont buyed the more expensive, it was the Fapal1ty one, wich has its OWN RAM MEMORY.... but was more than double price. XtremeMusic was 99 Euros and the Fatal1ty was 260 Euros.
I buyed the most cheap of the last line, the XtremeMusic... i was a stupid, it works wonderful and near to solve my problems, may be the fatal1ty was a good option too.
But some friends tells me the FPS diference between these two cards is not too much in percent ..... may be not good to expend from 99 to 260 only to have a 5% or 8% more FPS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laffertytig

there is nothing in the motherboard sound config panel to change this.
the only thing i can see that is similar is under control panel, sound and audio devices, speaker settings, advanced.

i have it set at desktop stereo speakersbut there are options for 5.1 surround sound speakers, 7.1 home theatre speakers and 7.1 wide config speakers.

this wouldnt be audio channels would it?

Yes thats the way.... check you have the set at Desktop Stereo Speakers prior to run SH3.

Redwine · 10-31-06, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

Hi Red, even I'm interested in the DC FX mod, can you point to DL please?

Thanks.

Here you have.... remember the sh3.sdl here do not contains the modifications for propellers sounds....

I highly recommend you to make all the change sinto particles.dat and sh3.sdl files Manually...

Back-up ypur files at first....

http://www.badongo.com/file/1635034

Redwine · 10-31-06, 07:23 AM

Here a little collection of sounds i add over the Incognito Sound Pack... it contains the SH2 propellers sounds and others sounds from many modders.

Incognito Sound Pack is abailable at Terrapin site...

http://www.badongo.com/file/1635259

Here the sh3.sdl file i am using.... but it contains the modifications for Depth Charge FX mod....

http://www.badongo.com/file/1635318

10-29-06, 05:31 AM	#1
Laffertytig Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 755 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	modding the sh3.sdl file how come whenever i mod this file using mini tweaker i get a windows error message when i close SH3? all im doin is changin the propeller sound distances

10-29-06, 08:42 AM	#2
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 32,935 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	That's a wierd one, never experienced it! Maybe your sound card or possably if your doing the mods during a patrol may cause it, I always do mods (including tweaks to sh3.sdl mixer file) then start a new patrol. I assume it only happens the first exit after tweaking, your not tweaking the file while SH3 is running are you? __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

10-30-06, 06:32 AM	#4
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 32,935 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Did you download & try out my SFX pack it beefs up all the sounds & some that are not mixed correctly, yes this version of my sh3.sdl file has quite a few tweaks done to it! Readme supplied. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!* Last edited by Reece; 10-30-06 at 07:53 PM.

10-30-06, 09:02 AM	#6
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 32,935 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Hi Red, even I'm interested in the DC FX mod, can you point to DL please? Thanks. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

10-30-06, 08:24 PM	#9
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 32,935 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Try this! I would like to know how to change to different audio channel versions just for curiosity! I have onboard realtek AC97 and that has 7.1 audio channel, I have no problems! however I don't run the mixer as I find this uses too much resources and does nothing really for sound excepting to add echo, wide, etc. Do a search for msconfig.exe and drag a shortcut to desktop, run and goto startup tab, the list can be quite large, just look for your sound manager & untick it, the apply - ok - restart. You may know all of this but you can untick any device here if you think the device is "SUS" or don't want, also applies to 'Services' Tab (take a little care here with microsoft devices). Hope this helps. HEY, stop posting while I'm still editing my post Red! :rotfl: By the way I'ts at Rapidupload, not rapidshare, out of curiosity Red, are you using the new card or are you back to using your onboard Soundmax? __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!* Last edited by Reece; 10-30-06 at 08:30 PM.

10-29-06, 11:32 AM	#3
Laffertytig Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 755 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	think the problem was i wasnt rollin back sub commander b4 modding it. but try as i might i cant i cant hear the dd's propeller any further than 300 metres. ideally id like to hear them from around 600 metres so if anyone else could send me their Sh3.sdl file that would be great

10-30-06, 12:09 PM	#7
Laffertytig Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 755 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	if anyone can me me how to set my audio channels to 2.1 that would be great. its a new asrock motherboard i have with onboard sound but i cant see anywhere in the configurator to change this. when i open it it says 7.1 virtual speaker shift , dunno if this is the audio channel??? yeah redwine if u could post all the sound files and sdl file u use that would be great as well

10-30-06, 10:31 PM	#11
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 32,935 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	The msconfig.exe section I posted is directed at Laffertytig! I don't have any way of changing my audio channel version, tried: 1) Sound properties in Device manager, but nothing. 2) Soundman (Realtek) in device manager & nothing there. 3) Sound properties in "Sounds and Audio Devices" from Control panel. Maybe your sound card Red allows this, but not my onboard sound, only the motherboard manual & the printing on box is there any mention of mine having audio channel version 7.1. could be the same for Laffertytig! Good to hear your card is going well, you had a few problems when first installed & a little worrying as the card was quite expensive! Cheers. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

10-31-06, 03:58 AM	#12
Laffertytig Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 755 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	there is nothing in the motherboard sound config panel to change this. the only thing i can see that is similar is under control panel, sound and audio devices, speaker settings, advanced. i have it set at desktop stereo speakersbut there are options for 5.1 surround sound speakers, 7.1 home theatre speakers and 7.1 wide config speakers. this wouldnt be audio channels would it?

10-31-06, 07:23 AM	#15
Redwine Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Martin de los Andes, Neuquen, , Argentina. Posts: 1,962 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Here a little collection of sounds i add over the Incognito Sound Pack... it contains the SH2 propellers sounds and others sounds from many modders. Incognito Sound Pack is abailable at Terrapin site... http://www.badongo.com/file/1635259 Here the sh3.sdl file i am using.... but it contains the modifications for Depth Charge FX mod.... http://www.badongo.com/file/1635318 __________________ . "SH III and SH IV Mods" "Manual TDC Tutorial" "SH2 Downloads Selection"