Realistic Depths?

shawnyp420 · 03-24-07, 09:39 PM

250ft. doesn't seem like much, even for a WWII vintage sub. Are these depths just "reccomended" depths?? Can I go a whole lot deeper? I'm pretty sure modern subs go > 1000ft so what gives??

FAdmiral · 03-24-07, 09:49 PM

Those were recommended depth limits by the boat makers.
Most boats could go deeper but it would be a big gamble to
see how far...

JIM

PS. See this post http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=108870

Riptides · 03-24-07, 09:56 PM

I made it to 450' in the biggest starting sub in the game (is there bigger?). I sat there trucking along for about two minutes, then every system failed all at once and whoomp my sub crushed like a can.

So I can say I made it that far and did it by descending slowly in increments of about 50ft at a time below the warning mark. I had everyone at their stations and a full regiment of repair guys. There were leaks springing during the descent that they would pop up and repair.

The next time I tried to descend directly to 450' without stepping it and imploded around 410'.

Pretty cool, you oughta try it

shawnyp420 · 03-24-07, 09:59 PM

so do you think it would be possible to operate at say 350' for an hour or two while I evade counter attack?

GoldenEagle8 · 03-24-07, 10:25 PM

hmm, I encountered what must have been a bug where I was going backwards out of an enemy port for a long while, and then, my boat sank like a rock to about 625'

and survived for about 3 minutes

. Then is was a very small wrinkley sub with holes in it

. Like I said though, might have been a bug.

AS · 03-25-07, 11:17 AM

I was just crushed in my Tambor class (1941) at 350 ft (about 119m) without any warning: all went well, suddenly the light went out, I got million damages (ridiculous ones like "deck gun damaged" too) and although I immediately tried to surface the sub was out of control.

Sadly, just another aspect that is worse than in SH3. Sad but true.

MikeDixonUK · 03-25-07, 11:31 AM

My S-18 Class just got hit by what I assume was a Japanese Bomber (Had a Radar Contact but no Aircraft Spotted) and went all the way down to about 1500ft before it got crushed, and then I got Court Marshaled for Dying.

drewsbu · 03-25-07, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeDixonUK

My S-18 Class just got hit by what I assume was a Japanese Bomber (Had a Radar Contact but no Aircraft Spotted) and went all the way down to about 1500ft before it got crushed, and then I got Court Marshaled for Dying.

haha I never heard of getting court marshalled for dying. Do the devs really believe that happened?

When I first died I thought I would get sort of honor for my ultimate sacrifice, but I kinda felt pissed that the US Navy tarnished my name. lol

Cakewalk · 03-25-07, 01:11 PM

I usually try not to go below 400', in my Gar class sub.

That being said, its hilarious how the US Navy fishes you and your crew out from about 4000' underwater and brings you to court.

Faamecanic · 03-25-07, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shawnyp420

so do you think it would be possible to operate at say 350' for an hour or two while I evade counter attack?

I know I had my Tambor class at 300 ft for awhile while evading a DC attack. When the ashcans started getting too close (still didnt have any damamge though) I went to 350 ft and she split open like a over-ripe tomato....

ComradeP · 03-25-07, 01:52 PM

From all these debates about depth, ones starts to wonder why the Americans didn't radically improve their hulls at times when the Japanese and Germans already did so and could dive deeper (sometimes even two times as deep, according to these statistics).

Sailor Steve · 03-25-07, 02:45 PM

The Germans had pressure hulls up to 7/8" thick. The Japanese, no. The japanese had depth charges that could not be set for more than 200 feet because they didn't believe anyone's subs could go that far down...theirs couldn't.

Scire · 03-25-07, 03:18 PM

If you set the measure sistem in meters your sub will crash reaching only 45 meters of depth!!!

CCIP · 03-25-07, 03:45 PM

Yes, I believe this is more or less a confirmed issue. The game's crush depth (or rather depth at which the sub starts taking constant damage) is equal to the test depth, which is totally not appropriate. It should be at least 1.5 times greater; I'll see if I can play with it.

Aimbot · 03-25-07, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Scire

If you set the measure sistem in meters your sub will crash reaching only 45 meters of depth!!!

That's 135 feet. You won't crush that shallow.

03-24-07, 09:39 PM	#1
shawnyp420 A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 78 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Realistic Depths? 250ft. doesn't seem like much, even for a WWII vintage sub. Are these depths just "reccomended" depths?? Can I go a whole lot deeper? I'm pretty sure modern subs go > 1000ft so what gives??

03-24-07, 09:49 PM	#2
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Those were recommended depth limits by the boat makers. Most boats could go deeper but it would be a big gamble to see how far... JIM PS. See this post http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=108870 __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

03-24-07, 10:25 PM	#5
GoldenEagle8 Engineer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: I think I'm lost? Posts: 206 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	hmm, I encountered what must have been a bug where I was going backwards out of an enemy port for a long while, and then, my boat sank like a rock to about 625' and survived for about 3 minutes. Then is was a very small wrinkley sub with holes in it. Like I said though, might have been a bug. __________________ "YES! Everything I do is a surprise! EVEN TO ME!" "Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." ~Otto von Bismarck "I thought so little, they rewarded me by making me the ruler of the Queen's Navy." ~Sir Joseph Porter (HMS Pinafore)

03-25-07, 11:17 AM	#6
AS 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 275 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	I was just crushed in my Tambor class (1941) at 350 ft (about 119m) without any warning: all went well, suddenly the light went out, I got million damages (ridiculous ones like "deck gun damaged" too) and although I immediately tried to surface the sub was out of control. Sadly, just another aspect that is worse than in SH3. Sad but true. __________________ Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. (Oscar Wilde)

03-25-07, 02:45 PM	#12
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	The Germans had pressure hulls up to 7/8" thick. The Japanese, no. The japanese had depth charges that could not be set for more than 200 feet because they didn't believe anyone's subs could go that far down...theirs couldn't. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-24-07, 09:56 PM	#3
Riptides Nub Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I made it to 450' in the biggest starting sub in the game (is there bigger?). I sat there trucking along for about two minutes, then every system failed all at once and whoomp my sub crushed like a can. So I can say I made it that far and did it by descending slowly in increments of about 50ft at a time below the warning mark. I had everyone at their stations and a full regiment of repair guys. There were leaks springing during the descent that they would pop up and repair. The next time I tried to descend directly to 450' without stepping it and imploded around 410'. Pretty cool, you oughta try it

03-24-07, 09:59 PM	#4
shawnyp420 A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 78 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	so do you think it would be possible to operate at say 350' for an hour or two while I evade counter attack?

03-25-07, 11:31 AM	#7
MikeDixonUK Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	My S-18 Class just got hit by what I assume was a Japanese Bomber (Had a Radar Contact but no Aircraft Spotted) and went all the way down to about 1500ft before it got crushed, and then I got Court Marshaled for Dying.

03-25-07, 01:11 PM	#9
Cakewalk Engineer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 212 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I usually try not to go below 400', in my Gar class sub. That being said, its hilarious how the US Navy fishes you and your crew out from about 4000' underwater and brings you to court.

03-25-07, 01:52 PM	#11
ComradeP Seaman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arnhem, Gelderland province, the Netherlands Posts: 40 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	From all these debates about depth, ones starts to wonder why the Americans didn't radically improve their hulls at times when the Japanese and Germans already did so and could dive deeper (sometimes even two times as deep, according to these statistics).

03-25-07, 03:18 PM	#13
Scire Gunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: La Spezia Italy Posts: 93 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	If you set the measure sistem in meters your sub will crash reaching only 45 meters of depth!!! __________________ "Six Italians, dressed in rather unusual diving suits and equipped with materials of laughably little cost, have swung the military balance of power in the Mediterranean in favour of the Axis". Sir Winston Churchill, on the sinking of HMS Valiant and HMS Queen Elizabeth by Italian Combat Divers

03-25-07, 03:45 PM	#14
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Yes, I believe this is more or less a confirmed issue. The game's crush depth (or rather depth at which the sub starts taking constant damage) is equal to the test depth, which is totally not appropriate. It should be at least 1.5 times greater; I'll see if I can play with it. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)