French nuclear carrier enters Arabian Sea

Was the white flag raised?


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[ASWnut101]

Strange. I don't see the greenpeace ships trailing it.

[SUBMAN1]

Wow! I am shocked a bit by this French response. I figured they would forever cower in the face of Islam forever more. Paint me wrong I guess since this is a major step against everything I ever expected from them.

-S

[RedMenace]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Wow! I am shocked a bit by this French response. I figured they would forever cower in the face of Islam forever more.

-S

Cower in the face of Islam? What the hell? Islam is a religion, comrade, not a nation. You can't cower in the face of a religion. Do I have to explain this to you every time?

[Torpedo Fodder]

Originally Posted by ASWnut101

Strange. I don't see the greenpeace ships trailing it.

Either they're afraid the French would sink them, or Greenpeace actually tried trailing the de Gaulle and the French have already sunk them. Remember the Rainbow Warrior?

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Torpedo Fodder

Either they're afraid the French would sink them, or Greenpeace actually tried trailing the de Gaulle and the French have already sunk them. Remember the Rainbow Warrior?

The French could be testing mini-nukes on baby seal colonies, I'd still stay away. Don't f*ck with the french after Rainbow Warrior

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by RedMenace

What the hell? Islam is a religion, comrade, not a nation. You can't cower in the face of a religion. Do I have to explain this to you every time?

In today's vocabulary lesson, children, we'll talk about the word Ummah.

After you learn Islam, RedMenace, then come back to us with your repeated explanations.

[Bort]

The French are extremely hard to understand and pin down. They make decisions and take action in such an erratic fashion, I often wonder if they're just flipping a coin! But they have a pretty good military which includes some of the fiercest warriors around (the Foreign Legion) and although the last century hasn't given them much to cheer about, I don't think they're at all deserving of the "surrender monkey" tag.
I'm glad they've decided to stand with the US and its allies in being resolutely against Iran's acquisition of nukes.
Bienvenue à bord!

[RedMenace]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

In today's vocabulary lesson, children, we'll talk about the word Ummah.

After you learn Islam, RedMenace, then come back to us with your repeated explanations.

What's your point?

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by RedMenace

What's your point?

What don't you understand?

Islam, the religion, views itself as a global nation, no country excepted. Just because you live in Dar al Harb doesn't mean it's yours forever, you kufr!

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by RedMenace

Cower in the face of Islam? What the hell? Islam is a religion, comrade, not a nation. You can't cower in the face of a religion. Do I have to explain this to you every time?

You are funny! Learn something about religion and then get back to me.

[XabbaRus]

Is this the De Gaulle whose props were screwed and had to go into a major refit to fix a bunch of problems which I don't know if they have solved.

Also they have the Rafale on board but not really capable for anything except AD.

So I wouldn't count on them for support against the Iranians.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Is this the De Gaulle whose props were screwed and had to go into a major refit to fix a bunch of problems which I don't know if they have solved.

Also they have the Rafale on board but not really capable for anything except AD.

So I wouldn't count on them for support against the Iranians.

They should have bought EF-2000's. EF-2000's is a much better plane then Rafale.

-S

[Oberon]

Less French though, which is probably the reason they haven't.

[Torpedo Fodder]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

They should have bought EF-2000's. EF-2000's is a much better plane then Rafale.

Not suitable for carrier ops, and the other countires wern't interested in incorporating that capability into the design. That's one major reason the French decided to go it alone instead of joining the EFA program. Navalizing the Typhoon at this point is not really practical, as these days if you want an aircraft to operate on a carrier, it pretty much has to be designed to do so from the start. Convertaing an airframe originally designed only for land ops into a carrier plane presents a very expensive and posibly impractical engineering prospect.

And at this point, the Typhoon isn't good for much else than air defence either, and it won't have anything more than the most basic ground attack capabilities until the Tranche 3 version is ready around 2010.