SH4 ! Too hard to learn ??

canimodo · 03-21-07, 04:50 PM

Hello,

i saw the SH4 attack video on youtube, and now i´m worried.
The controls are somewhat different from SH3 - It looks very difficult.
Very confusing.... Maybe cause i didnt have speakers on, but i didnt understand S#!-

Well, basically, is it really ??

Onkel Neal · 03-21-07, 05:00 PM

Ah, good timing! I am about to post a new vid using the easier realism options. I think it will answer your questions, mate.

Neal

Ducimus · 03-21-07, 05:01 PM

I woudlnt say difficult.. just different. The main thing is, German and American TDC's worked differently and the control layout is different.

The fundamentals however, im quite sure remain unchanged.

canimodo · 03-21-07, 05:07 PM

Put some external views on the video...

They look great !!!!

donut · 03-21-07, 05:14 PM

canimodo,YOU WILL LEARN,the easy way,w/modding.It's going to be worth it .

[quote]
Ah, good timing! I am about to post a new vid using the easier realism options. I think it will answer your questions, mate.

Neal [quote] waiting Onkel,Regards

SharpShin · 03-21-07, 05:29 PM

I can't wait to see the new video Neal. The first one was great but too difficult for a nub like me right now. I love the challenge of these games but I have to work my way up to it.

Charos · 03-21-07, 05:31 PM

Well it better be harder than SH3 on full switch - I stopped for lunch one day and my pet canary had already bagged another 50K ton and completed the patrol.

Onkel Neal · 03-21-07, 11:26 PM

Here you go, guys.

This is on easy mode. I think this the way to learn, and the game is still lots of fun.

StandingCow · 03-22-07, 12:23 AM

When I started, I missed SH3 almost right away, then tried again on easier options and had a lot of fun.

Neal is right, it just takes some getting used to.

CCIP · 03-22-07, 12:25 AM

Took me about an hour of 'training' to get the hang of the controls and changes, TDC and all (although that one will need a bit more practice to be more effective)...

Ducimus · 03-22-07, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Here you go, guys.

This is on easy mode. I think this the way to learn, and the game is still lots of fun.

Nice video. It also showed me the very first thing im going to mod. The voice index in the crew config files. Helium boy has got to go!

donut · 03-22-07, 02:05 AM

Awlsome video
Position is everything,

now evasion:hmm: ???

Cougar_DK · 03-22-07, 02:33 AM

Great videos Neal

Made me want to try the realistic settings when SH4 arrives today or tomorrow.

Immacolata · 03-22-07, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Here you go, guys.

This is on easy mode. I think this the way to learn, and the game is still lots of fun.

Neal is the ruler range bug fixed or do you still have to add 50 meters on every reading? I made my observations and speed calculations in SH3 using an overlay slide rule thingy that a mod added. Now its missing in SH4 so I need to do the old "3 minutes and 15 seconds" trick. Except Im not sure if the last 15 secs are needed if the ruler is precise now.

Im at a complete loss with the position keeper. What on earth is that supposed to do?

03-21-07, 04:50 PM	#1
canimodo A-ganger Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 73 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SH4 ! Too hard to learn ?? Hello, i saw the SH4 attack video on youtube, and now i´m worried. The controls are somewhat different from SH3 - It looks very difficult. Very confusing.... Maybe cause i didnt have speakers on, but i didnt understand S#!- Well, basically, is it really ??

03-21-07, 05:14 PM	#5
donut The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Shifting, Whispering Sands, NM Posts: 1,463 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	If you are A SUBsimer? canimodo,YOU WILL LEARN,the easy way,w/modding.It's going to be worth it .[quote] Ah, good timing! I am about to post a new vid using the easier realism options. I think it will answer your questions, mate. Neal [quote] waiting Onkel,Regards

03-21-07, 05:29 PM	#6
SharpShin Sailor man Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 47 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I can't wait to see the new video Neal. The first one was great but too difficult for a nub like me right now. I love the challenge of these games but I have to work my way up to it. Last edited by SharpShin; 03-21-07 at 05:39 PM.

03-22-07, 12:23 AM	#9
StandingCow Weps Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 355 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	When I started, I missed SH3 almost right away, then tried again on easier options and had a lot of fun. Neal is right, it just takes some getting used to. __________________

03-22-07, 12:25 AM	#10
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Took me about an hour of 'training' to get the hang of the controls and changes, TDC and all (although that one will need a bit more practice to be more effective)... __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-21-07, 05:00 PM	#2
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Ah, good timing! I am about to post a new vid using the easier realism options. I think it will answer your questions, mate. Neal

03-21-07, 05:01 PM	#3
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I woudlnt say difficult.. just different. The main thing is, German and American TDC's worked differently and the control layout is different. The fundamentals however, im quite sure remain unchanged.

03-21-07, 05:07 PM	#4
canimodo A-ganger Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 73 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Put some external views on the video... They look great !!!!

03-21-07, 05:31 PM	#7
Charos Helmsman Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 109 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Well it better be harder than SH3 on full switch - I stopped for lunch one day and my pet canary had already bagged another 50K ton and completed the patrol.

03-21-07, 11:26 PM	#8
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Here you go, guys. This is on easy mode. I think this the way to learn, and the game is still lots of fun.

03-22-07, 02:05 AM	#12
donut The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Shifting, Whispering Sands, NM Posts: 1,463 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Awlsome video Position is everything, now evasion:hmm: ???

03-22-07, 02:33 AM	#13
Cougar_DK Watch Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 27 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Great videos Neal Made me want to try the realistic settings when SH4 arrives today or tomorrow.