Why does the crew look so tiny?

Ark · 03-16-07, 07:22 PM

I've been on the Pampaito before, and I don't remember the sub being that big compared to the average human.

I was looking at the pics at Marinesims, and the crew, when they are on the conning tower, look like they need to be about 1.5x-2x larger. lol

Is this just my eyes playing a trick on me when I see the screenshots?

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Torplexed · 03-16-07, 08:12 PM

If they wanna fit thru that doorway in the side of the conning tower they can't afford to be much taller.

flyingdane · 03-16-07, 08:14 PM

Ark · 03-16-07, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

If they wanna fit thru that doorway in the side of the conning tower they can't afford to be much taller.

The whole scale looks out of wack to me. lol

Shaffer4 · 03-16-07, 08:24 PM

The first pic looks like a later Balao style Conning tower, not a Gato tower, as depicted in the game image. Also the scale seems about the same; if you take the aft flak gunner and place him in front of the forward flak position he appears on scale with the sailors in the photograph.

The refit modifications are not all universal, as in looking through photos i've seen various versions of conning tower modifications; dependind on the timeframe in which they were performed.

Not to mention people were alot smaller in those days.

SH4 depicts more than one Conning Tower Refit as well; this image better fits the one in your photo (Balao style) where the upper section is cutdown more, as evidenced by the exposure of the Periscopes.

Arrowhead2k1 · 03-16-07, 08:27 PM

Yup, different conning towers being compared.

Ark · 03-16-07, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrowhead2k1

Yup, different conning towers being compared.

The people look tiny on ALL of the conning towers. lol

http://www.marinesims.de/site/silent...-4/sh4-33.html

Shaffer4 · 03-16-07, 09:20 PM

Well, the Conning tower isn't exactly small; roughly 40 to 50" in length, and people were quite abit shorter by todays standards.

Ark · 03-16-07, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaffer4

and people were quite abit shorter by todays standards.

The difference between the 1940's and the 1950's was very miniscule, and from the 1950's on, there's hardly been any change as well. At least not a change that is blatantly noticable.

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Average height in the United States has remained essentially stagnant since the 1950s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height

We aren't talking about the difference between the 18th century and today. LOL

Maybe it is just an optical illusion. I doubt the Dev. team would miss that, but who knows.

RDDR · 03-16-07, 09:47 PM

Hey Ark,
Your not lettin go of this one are you?

flyingdane · 03-16-07, 09:52 PM

Common men the release is only days away. stop posting stupid stuff.

Ark · 03-16-07, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by flyingdane

Common men the release is only days away. stop posting stupid stuff.

Why is what I posted "stupid", because you don't agree with it?

Or is that you feel what I pointed out is trivial, and anything you don't care about should be considered invalid and therefore "stupid" by others?

Nice. Thx!

(I'm just messing with ya', Flyingdane)

@ RDDR: LOL

I think I'm too opinionated. I try not to be, but I think it's a character flaw.

Shaffer4 · 03-16-07, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ark

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaffer4

and people were quite abit shorter by todays standards.

The difference between the 1940's and the 1950's was very miniscule, and from the 1950's on, there's hardly been any change as well. At least not a change that is blatantly noticable.

Quote:

Average height in the United States has remained essentially stagnant since the 1950s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height

We aren't talking about the difference between the 18th century and today. LOL

Maybe it is just an optical illusion. I doubt the Dev. team would miss that, but who knows.

Well, I'm 6' 8" so maybe its just me :hmm:

Ark · 03-16-07, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaffer4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ark

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Originally Posted by Shaffer4

and people were quite abit shorter by todays standards.

The difference between the 1940's and the 1950's was very miniscule, and from the 1950's on, there's hardly been any change as well. At least not a change that is blatantly noticable.

Quote:

Average height in the United States has remained essentially stagnant since the 1950s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height

We aren't talking about the difference between the 18th century and today. LOL

Maybe it is just an optical illusion. I doubt the Dev. team would miss that, but who knows.

Well, I'm 6' 8" so maybe its just me :hmm:

Hehe

DaMaGe007 · 03-16-07, 10:24 PM

Well we told the dev team we wanted little people running around on ships and thats what we got !

Im not complaining, I was a wizard of oz fan...

But seriously, those conning towers look different, and it will all change when you get it fullscreen on your monitor

03-16-07, 07:22 PM	#1
Ark Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fresno, CA. Posts: 581 Downloads: 95 Uploads: 0	Why does the crew look so tiny? I've been on the Pampaito before, and I don't remember the sub being that big compared to the average human. I was looking at the pics at Marinesims, and the crew, when they are on the conning tower, look like they need to be about 1.5x-2x larger. lol Is this just my eyes playing a trick on me when I see the screenshots? Real Gato: SHIV Gato: __________________ Ark -------------- Vista 64-bit SP1 Asus P6T Deluxe mobo Core i7 920 @ 3.8ghz 6GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 Evga GTX 285 SSC SB X-FI Fatality 640GB WD "Black" Dell 3007WFP-HC 30" LCD / Acer 23" H233H

03-16-07, 08:12 PM	#2
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	If they wanna fit thru that doorway in the side of the conning tower they can't afford to be much taller. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

03-16-07, 08:14 PM	#3
flyingdane Weps Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 355 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	__________________ It denos't mtater waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, it's olny iprmoatnt taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelms.Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

03-16-07, 08:24 PM	#5
Shaffer4 Ensign Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Walla Walla, Wa Posts: 223 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	The first pic looks like a later Balao style Conning tower, not a Gato tower, as depicted in the game image. Also the scale seems about the same; if you take the aft flak gunner and place him in front of the forward flak position he appears on scale with the sailors in the photograph. The refit modifications are not all universal, as in looking through photos i've seen various versions of conning tower modifications; dependind on the timeframe in which they were performed. Not to mention people were alot smaller in those days. SH4 depicts more than one Conning Tower Refit as well; this image better fits the one in your photo (Balao style) where the upper section is cutdown more, as evidenced by the exposure of the Periscopes. __________________ Last edited by Shaffer4; 03-16-07 at 08:37 PM.

03-16-07, 09:20 PM	#8
Shaffer4 Ensign Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Walla Walla, Wa Posts: 223 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Well, the Conning tower isn't exactly small; roughly 40 to 50" in length, and people were quite abit shorter by todays standards. __________________

03-16-07, 08:27 PM	#6
Arrowhead2k1 Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 112 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Yup, different conning towers being compared.

03-16-07, 09:47 PM	#10
RDDR Bosun Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 67 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	Hey Ark, Your not lettin go of this one are you?

03-16-07, 09:52 PM	#11
flyingdane Weps Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 355 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Common men the release is only days away. stop posting stupid stuff. __________________ It denos't mtater waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, it's olny iprmoatnt taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelms.Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

03-16-07, 10:24 PM	#15
DaMaGe007 Watch Officer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 338 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well we told the dev team we wanted little people running around on ships and thats what we got ! Im not complaining, I was a wizard of oz fan... But seriously, those conning towers look different, and it will all change when you get it fullscreen on your monitor