Ubi, Pirates and Release Dates

CCIP · 03-17-07, 11:18 PM

I hate to join the ranks of the ranters, but here goes one:

1) Pirates -

Way to leak a game. I should hope that anyone who even thinks of going this route thinks again. Whatever the case, we all HAVE to support the developers. This, like it or not, is a matter of life-and-death to our hobby - if we can't support commercial subsims, we can kiss them goodbye. If anyone here dares to say non-commercial subsims are the way to go - I'll give them a pat on the back, and ask them to see their finished product - and don't get me wrong, but it's just a fact that we NEED true, original commercial development in our hobby right now.

2) Ubi -

Great way to let the pirates get ahead of you. For shame, you're a company with millions of dollars in budget, and you can't afford to set up even an online distro system, TWO WEEKS after the game has gone gold - and after the 'scene' beat you to it.
I consider myself a very dissatisfied customer. Though I will not cancel my order, because I'm honorable enough to have two legit game copies, I must say I am seriously disappointed - I paid $49.99 US, and I can't even get a game I've been waiting for more than a year, any earlier than the pirate scambags.

3) Release date confusion -

How can a game be shipping in one country, while others who paid to pre-order in others can't even get it online or mailed to them in time?

I ask that everyone here who's pre-ordered from Ubisoft PLEASE write these guys a few emails expressing their dissatisfaction. As customers, you have to speak out for yourselves.

You will never see me whining about the game - I'll post bug reports and errors in proper threads, and that'll be the end of it. But this is where I draw the line.

Again,

CCIP · 03-17-07, 11:30 PM

Err, to that I'd like to add a request - could anyone please point me to a Ubisoft customer contact email?

I have a few (politely written and to-the-point) words for them - and I'm irked it's impossible to even find a way to send them to the company's complaint department (and they'd better have it).

dean_acheson · 03-17-07, 11:43 PM

Hear hear!!!

I totally agree. I purchased an online copy and the freaking big dollar collector's edition....

So here I am, unable to d/l it, it is the weekend, and people are playing it.

I am really piqued.

kiwi_2005 · 03-17-07, 11:57 PM

I pre-ordered from the local pc store, Collectors edition and im expecting i wont be playing till either late this week or early next.

Whens it coming out 21st of this month isn't it? So i figure i will have it either 23rd (yeah right) or definately next week.

We usually get our games same time as Aussie gamers.

I hope.

Meco · 03-18-07, 12:23 AM

I put a deposit at the gaming store. His computer screen indicated it would be in on Friday the 23rd.. Im in no rush. Ill pay the full price for both copies. Mine and the one Im buying for a friend.

Personaly, I don't care what pirates do. My copies are clean and to me thats all that matters. I did my part for the devs and I think most others will too. In a week from now we will all be having a great time with SHIV and days like today will be a distant memory.

What can ya do. It's a global ditributed product. There is bound to be variation in delivery.

I see and understand your point completely CCIP.

But I shudder at the alternative. Remember the SF days with SHIII. I'm thinking it coulda been much worse than a few days wait while others play it by theft. In every new game release there are bugs, items that dont meet expectations, items that surpass them, pirates, hours of fun, minutes of frustration, time goes too fast, it takes too long.

Such is life. It's too short. let em have their moment of evil. let the devs figure out how to prevent it next time. Yesterday is over, today is here, and tomorow is another day.

stabiz · 03-18-07, 12:30 AM

I dont see where this is coming from, this happens with ALL GAMES. Sure it sucks, but it has nothing to do with Ubi. (This time)

Oh, and I have bought the game, and not received it either.

Ark · 03-18-07, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

I hate to join the ranks of the ranters, but here goes one:

1) Pirates -

Way to leak a game. I should hope that anyone who even thinks of going this route thinks again. Whatever the case, we all HAVE to support the developers. This, like it or not, is a matter of life-and-death to our hobby - if we can't support commercial subsims, we can kiss them goodbye. If anyone here dares to say non-commercial subsims are the way to go - I'll give them a pat on the back, and ask them to see their finished product - and don't get me wrong, but it's just a fact that we NEED true, original commercial development in our hobby right now.

2) Ubi -

Great way to let the pirates get ahead of you. For shame, you're a company with millions of dollars in budget, and you can't afford to set up even an online distro system, TWO WEEKS after the game has gone gold - and after the 'scene' beat you to it.
I consider myself a very dissatisfied customer. Though I will not cancel my order, because I'm honorable enough to have two legit game copies, I must say I am seriously disappointed - I paid $49.99 US, and I can't even get a game I've been waiting for more than a year, any earlier than the pirate scambags.

3) Release date confusion -

How can a game be shipping in one country, while others who paid to pre-order in others can't even get it online or mailed to them in time?

I ask that everyone here who's pre-ordered from Ubisoft PLEASE write these guys a few emails expressing their dissatisfaction. As customers, you have to speak out for yourselves.

You will never see me whining about the game - I'll post bug reports and errors in proper threads, and that'll be the end of it. But this is where I draw the line.

Again,

I went the extra distance and went ahead and called everyday for the past week. Usually right before they get off work. lol

Fat Bhoy Tim · 03-19-07, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

I hate to join the ranks of the ranters, but here goes one:

2) Ubi -

Great way to let the pirates get ahead of you. For shame, you're a company with millions of dollars in budget, and you can't afford to set up even an online distro system, TWO WEEKS after the game has gone gold - and after the 'scene' beat you to it.
I consider myself a very dissatisfied customer. Though I will not cancel my order, because I'm honorable enough to have two legit game copies, I must say I am seriously disappointed - I paid $49.99 US, and I can't even get a game I've been waiting for more than a year, any earlier than the pirate scambags.

3) Release date confusion -

How can a game be shipping in one country, while others who paid to pre-order in others can't even get it online or mailed to them in time?

I ask that everyone here who's pre-ordered from Ubisoft PLEASE write these guys a few emails expressing their dissatisfaction. As customers, you have to speak out for yourselves.

You will never see me whining about the game - I'll post bug reports and errors in proper threads, and that'll be the end of it. But this is where I draw the line.

Again,

I find the fact you're complaining with the game not being released despite having gone gold 2 weeks ago, and then moaning about the difference release dates on the other hand - to be rather ironic. if I'm a publisher, I need a least a minimum of a month from gold to send it to the manufacturers to press it, and then distribute it worldwide. Meanwhile I'm not going to make it available online until it's a simoultaneous launch worldwide.

I agree they cocked up the different release dates, and the differences in availability of versions. But otherwise I don't see any problem. If pirates are going to get a hold of it and immediately stick it on the net, there's little you can do about it there.

StandingCow · 03-19-07, 06:24 AM

All you can do is promote people to actually but it, as somebody stated this genre is not very popular. If you see or hear of anybody pirating this game, try and convince them to go out and buy it.

I have been promoting this game on all the forums I visit in hopes that it does well and more subsims follow.

03-17-07, 11:18 PM	#1
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Ubi, Pirates and Release Dates I hate to join the ranks of the ranters, but here goes one: 1) Pirates - Way to leak a game. I should hope that anyone who even thinks of going this route thinks again. Whatever the case, we all HAVE to support the developers. This, like it or not, is a matter of life-and-death to our hobby - if we can't support commercial subsims, we can kiss them goodbye. If anyone here dares to say non-commercial subsims are the way to go - I'll give them a pat on the back, and ask them to see their finished product - and don't get me wrong, but it's just a fact that we NEED true, original commercial development in our hobby right now. 2) Ubi - Great way to let the pirates get ahead of you. For shame, you're a company with millions of dollars in budget, and you can't afford to set up even an online distro system, TWO WEEKS after the game has gone gold - and after the 'scene' beat you to it. I consider myself a very dissatisfied customer. Though I will not cancel my order, because I'm honorable enough to have two legit game copies, I must say I am seriously disappointed - I paid $49.99 US, and I can't even get a game I've been waiting for more than a year, any earlier than the pirate scambags. 3) Release date confusion - How can a game be shipping in one country, while others who paid to pre-order in others can't even get it online or mailed to them in time? I ask that everyone here who's pre-ordered from Ubisoft PLEASE write these guys a few emails expressing their dissatisfaction. As customers, you have to speak out for yourselves. You will never see me whining about the game - I'll post bug reports and errors in proper threads, and that'll be the end of it. But this is where I draw the line. Again, __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-17-07, 11:30 PM	#2
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Err, to that I'd like to add a request - could anyone please point me to a Ubisoft customer contact email? I have a few (politely written and to-the-point) words for them - and I'm irked it's impossible to even find a way to send them to the company's complaint department (and they'd better have it). __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-17-07, 11:57 PM	#4
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	I pre-ordered from the local pc store, Collectors edition and im expecting i wont be playing till either late this week or early next. Whens it coming out 21st of this month isn't it? So i figure i will have it either 23rd (yeah right) or definately next week. We usually get our games same time as Aussie gamers. I hope. __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

03-18-07, 12:30 AM	#6
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I dont see where this is coming from, this happens with ALL GAMES. Sure it sucks, but it has nothing to do with Ubi. (This time) Oh, and I have bought the game, and not received it either. __________________

03-19-07, 06:24 AM	#9
StandingCow Weps Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 355 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	All you can do is promote people to actually but it, as somebody stated this genre is not very popular. If you see or hear of anybody pirating this game, try and convince them to go out and buy it. I have been promoting this game on all the forums I visit in hopes that it does well and more subsims follow. __________________

03-17-07, 11:43 PM	#3
dean_acheson Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Midwest - USA Posts: 1,057 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	Hear hear!!! I totally agree. I purchased an online copy and the freaking big dollar collector's edition.... So here I am, unable to d/l it, it is the weekend, and people are playing it. I am really piqued.

03-18-07, 12:23 AM	#5
Meco Seaman Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 39 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I put a deposit at the gaming store. His computer screen indicated it would be in on Friday the 23rd.. Im in no rush. Ill pay the full price for both copies. Mine and the one Im buying for a friend. Personaly, I don't care what pirates do. My copies are clean and to me thats all that matters. I did my part for the devs and I think most others will too. In a week from now we will all be having a great time with SHIV and days like today will be a distant memory. What can ya do. It's a global ditributed product. There is bound to be variation in delivery. I see and understand your point completely CCIP. But I shudder at the alternative. Remember the SF days with SHIII. I'm thinking it coulda been much worse than a few days wait while others play it by theft. In every new game release there are bugs, items that dont meet expectations, items that surpass them, pirates, hours of fun, minutes of frustration, time goes too fast, it takes too long. Such is life. It's too short. let em have their moment of evil. let the devs figure out how to prevent it next time. Yesterday is over, today is here, and tomorow is another day.