Please convince me SHIV isn't just SHIII W/ grafix improvements???

[Charlie901]

I was really looking forward to this game but after hearing the initial reports I really skeptical now.


FOR INSTANCE:

It seems that the rez is still locked at 1024x768 no FSAA forcing...

Missing sounds or reused sounds from SHIII...

Less crew movement activity than SHIII...they don't move around at all...

Less crew interaction..you can't click on them...

Unable to click on stations and controls to use them...

Less informative damage control screen...

Less sub interiors...


And unfortunately the list seems to grow as more are getting the game.

It actually seems that this series is moving backward. Maybe the Devs just rehashed SHIII and were cut short by UBI for development time.

Now, before I run out and make a purchase here...please convinve me that this game is a worthy purchase and step forward in the series from SHIII with all the latest mods?

[OneTinSoldier]

Good question(s). But I think for an apples-to-apples comparision it should be a Stock SHIII to Stock SHIV comparison. Not a SHIII+all latest mods to Stock SHIV comparison.



When MS Flight Sim X came out tons of people that had:

FS2004 + Ground Enviroment Pro + Flight Enviroment + ActiveSky + FSGenesis Landclass and Mesh(all professionally done payware mods) + vast amount of freeware mods that are available, said...

"My FS2004 with all these payware and freeware mods looks better than FSX."



But I can assure you that once FSX versions of all those mods are available and installed that FSX + mods would blow away FS2004 + mods.

If you look at Stock FS2004 versus Stock FSX then you get the real picture.

Just my 2 cents

[DaMaGe007]

From the sounds of things there are some reasons to get SH4, such as the enhanced campain ect...once its modded it will get even better.

But from a resolution standpoint and being released with bugs and incomplete there is certinly some argument that its just Sh3 with a few enhancements.

I would say its worth it, but your not going to be really happy till it gets modded, which should be fairly quick since the modders are used to sh3 already.

If your a graphics junkie you may be disapointed about the resolution and fsaa aspects tho, and I doubt they are going to change.

[Spaxspore]

Originally Posted by DaMaGe007

From the sounds of things there are some reasons to get SH4, such as the enhanced campain ect...once its modded it will get even better.

But from a resolution standpoint and being released with bugs and incomplete there is certinly some argument that its just Sh3 with a few enhancements.

I would say its worth it, but your not going to be really happy till it gets modded, which should be fairly quick since the modders are used to sh3 already.

If your a graphics junkie you may be disapointed about the resolution and fsaa aspects tho, and I doubt they are going to change.

same here, the core of the game is there, and it looks very promising, with a few patchs and mods this game is goni to be sh3 now or better.

Its well worth it. There are some rough edges but all in all , i can see gold that has a thin layer of dirt coverin it.... where is the sweeper when we neeed it...

[Capt.LoneRanger]

It seems that the rez is still locked at 1024x768 no FSAA forcing...

What game does force FSAA if the card does not support rendering HDR and FSAA at the same time?

Missing sounds or reused sounds from SHIII...

I doubt the water or engines in the pacific sounded dramatically different from those in the Atlantik. So what?

Less crew movement activity than SHIII...they don't move around at all...

I'm fine with that, but judging from the videos, they moved a *LOT*. You're sure it's not only your PC?

Less crew interaction..you can't click on them...

If you call clicking them interaction, you definitely should go out more.

Unable to click on stations and controls to use them...

Nothing new here. As it was said before, you're the Captain, not the bow-dive-plane-dummy. The instruments are working and informative, that's all they're there for.

Less informative damage control screen...

Not really. The damage-control is improved and it lets you assign priorities better, even for different teams in the sections.

Less sub interiors...

Less than what? What other rooms were modelled in SH3 - did I miss anything?

[SteamWake]

[/quote]Less than what? What other rooms were modelled in SH3 - did I miss anything?[/quote]

The inside of the captains safe :p

[Mikkow]

Originally Posted by Capt.LoneRanger

If you call clicking them interaction, you definitely should go out more.

This is an extremely rude thing to say to another. Don't you think you could find other sources of self-esteem than attempt to feel superior to others (and doing this through absurd interpretation)?

Charlie901, there's a pretty high chance that not only will most/all bugs be ironed out, but also the addition of more features (i.e. read dev-answers on the ubi forums, they even mention it in the last answer, something about already placing enough code in place for writing your own log entries and hinting at enabling it in the future).

[Spaxspore]

Originally Posted by Mikkow

This is an extremely rude thing to say to another. Don't you think you could find other sources of self-esteem than attempt to feel superior to others (and doing this through absurd interpretation)?

yea ive noticed a couple of very rude comments floatin around, like that one directed to the dude lookin for the ubisoft support number... guys just help each other out, dont be an ass just because u know soemthing another doesnt.


And if u r just tryin to make a light joke, just put j/k or something so we know. Cause we dont get the benfit of tones in words...

[lord bame]

Originally Posted by Charlie901

Less crew interaction..you can't click on them...

yeah that's a major letdown from SH3 i dont really understand why they skip it. there are fewer options in sh4,everything scaled down to 4-6buttons

[longam]

From reading most of the Dev comments it does seem that they tried to open up more doors for the mod teams.

[Capt.LoneRanger]

Well, I'm sorry if you think this is rude.

All this whining just get's on my nerves and this post is really not one of those that brings any real and/or new arguments to the debate. Sure, it's fun to click a person, but you can just click the button to the same effect and with the off responses and not really life-like reactions, calling this "interactive crew" just sounds, well, a bit odd. If at all, you can access the stations options through the officers, that's all.

[lord bame]

Originally Posted by [LEFT

Capt.LoneRanger[/LEFT]]Well, I'm sorry if you think this is rude.

All this whining just

get's

on my nerves and this post is really not one of those that brings any real and/or new arguments to the debate. Sure, it's fun to click a person, but you can just click the button to the same effect and with the off responses and not really life-like reactions, calling this "interactive crew" just sounds, well, a bit odd. If at all, you can access the stations options through the officers, that's all.

why not play a arcade game then?

[malkuth74]

Originally Posted by OneTinSoldier

Good question(s). But I think for an apples-to-apples comparision it should be a Stock SHIII to Stock SHIV comparison. Not a SHIII+all latest mods to Stock SHIV comparison.



When MS Flight Sim X came out tons of people that had:

FS2004 + Ground Enviroment Pro + Flight Enviroment + ActiveSky + FSGenesis Landclass and Mesh(all professionally done payware mods) + vast amount of freeware mods that are available, said...

"My FS2004 with all these payware and freeware mods looks better than FSX."



But I can assure you that once FSX versions of all those mods are available and installed that FSX + mods would blow away FS2004 + mods.

If you look at Stock FS2004 versus Stock FSX then you get the real picture.

Just my 2 cents

Actually Stock FSX maxed looks better then anything Fs2004. The problem is nobody can play a maxed FSX when released, which caused people to use lower Playing options which then brought the FS2004+ to look better then FSX. :p

[AJ!]

Hang on a min...

It seems that the rez is still locked at 1024x768

Is that actualy true? So theres no option to change the rez?

[Gizzmoe]

Originally Posted by AJ!

Is that actualy true? So theres no option to change the rez?

You can change the resolution to whatever your system supports.