Primary patrol of North Sea

robj250 · 03-12-07, 01:15 PM

Sneak into Murmansk.....

Where is this place?

Can anyone help?

Is it covered with mines and sub nets?

Rob

Corsair · 03-12-07, 01:22 PM

Murmansk is a Soviet harbour where the allied convoys are going to...

For the rest no idea, never been there, way too cold for me...

airwolf48453 · 03-12-07, 01:22 PM

It is located at the top of Russia

robj250 · 03-12-07, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Corsair

Murmansk is a Soviet harbour where the allied convoys are going to...

For the rest no idea, never been there, way too cold for me...

I look at the editor and could not find it.

Rob

Additional: Yep, I found it. Is it worthwhile going there in October 1944?

Iron Budokan · 03-12-07, 02:42 PM

Yes, there's ships there and two convoy routes. The last time I went to Murmansk it was lightly guarded, that was in late '42 or early '43. I never had the nerve to go there in '44 though. Well, to be fair, I've never survived into '44.

Doing battle with those Red convoys up north is awesome. Horrific storms, bitter cold, the ultimate clash between communism and fascism, Allied task forces sailing up and down up and down along the coast of Norway and the air thick with planes. Man, it doesn't get any better than that.....

robj250 · 03-12-07, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron Budokan

Yes, there's ships there and two convoy routes. The last time I went to Murmansk it was lightly guarded, that was in late '42 or early '43. I never had the nerve to go there in '44 though. Well, to be fair, I've never survived into '44.

Doing battle with those Red convoys up north is awesome. Horrific storms, bitter cold, the ultimate clash between communism and fascism, Allied task forces sailing up and down up and down along the coast of Norway and the air thick with planes. Man, it doesn't get any better than that.....

Thanks for the information.

I'm still in my patrol zone AN41 and I've downed 10 planes so far and one crash right behind the sub. WOW.

Rob

andy_311 · 03-12-07, 06:01 PM

Been in there late 1940 yep lightly guarded and found a small tanker,couple of small merchants,s 2dd's some fishing boats and that's about it.

Jusa_Finn · 03-13-07, 08:14 AM

Isn't 1940 a bit early to attack Murmansk?

ijozic · 03-13-07, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jusa_Finn

Isn't 1940 a bit early to attack Murmansk?

LOL, good point. Aren't you supposed to lose renown for sinking neutral ships?

ijozic · 03-13-07, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by robj250

I'm still in my patrol zone AN41 and I've downed 10 planes so far and one crash right behind the sub. WOW.Rob

This sounds very realistic. It seems they should have spent more money on U-Boot fleet rather than on Luftwaffe. Battle of Britain would have had a very different outcome.

No, really, is GWX too forgiving regarding the AI flakgunners? I remember seeing that NYGM has some tweaks regarding these. Doesn't GWX include anything similar?

I remember downing an aircraft in a single mission in GWX with 20/2 and 37 guns and AI crew, but on my patrols I never tried anything similar. Tried my luck with a fighter manually once (as it can't do too much damage) but saw that it doesn't pay so I resumed with the crash-dive technique. I don't miss the GWX tweaks regarding this as I don't use the AI flak gunners but shooting down 10 airplanes in a whole career would seem pretty unlikely (thus, rather silly), not to mention in a single patrol.

robj250 · 03-13-07, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ijozic

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Originally Posted by robj250

I'm still in my patrol zone AN41 and I've downed 10 planes so far and one crash right behind the sub. WOW.Rob

This sounds very realistic. It seems they should have spent more money on U-Boot fleet rather than on Luftwaffe. Battle of Britain would have had a very different outcome.

No, really, is GWX too forgiving regarding the AI flakgunners? I remember seeing that NYGM has some tweaks regarding these. Doesn't GWX include anything similar?

I remember downing an aircraft in a single mission in GWX with 20/2 and 37 guns and AI crew, but on my patrols I never tried anything similar. Tried my luck with a fighter manually once (as it can't do too much damage) but saw that it doesn't pay so I resumed with the crash-dive technique. I don't miss the GWX tweaks regarding this as I don't use the AI flak gunners but shooting down 10 airplanes in a whole career would seem pretty unlikely (thus, rather silly), not to mention in a single patrol.

I can't help if it seems pretty unlikely, or silly, but the facts speak for itself. Watch my movies.

This one will not be out for a while yet as I'm not feeling well today.

Rob

AndyW · 03-13-07, 10:12 AM

Played two trips to Murmansk (March and July 1943). Not much guarding and an empty harbor. On my first trip I sunk two meager Soviet towboats, that's it. During my second trip I found a large convoy leaving Murmansk - and got sunk by the escorts.

The mean problem in that area is the long daylight during summer - I reckommend that tours "up there" should be made in the dark winter times, but than again it's up to the BdU to decide this.

Cheers,
AndyW

03-12-07, 01:15 PM	#1
robj250 Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Port Hardy, BC, Canada 75 yo with M.S. & C.O.P.D. & heart problems Posts: 1,930 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Primary patrol of North Sea Sneak into Murmansk..... Where is this place? Can anyone help? Is it covered with mines and sub nets? Rob

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Corsair Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toulouse France Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Murmansk is a Soviet harbour where the allied convoys are going to... For the rest no idea, never been there, way too cold for me... __________________ NYGM 3.4A / Living SH3 V5.1 + SH3 Commander

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airwolf48453 Helmsman Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Michigan/USA Posts: 103 Downloads: 201 Uploads: 0	It is located at the top of Russia __________________ A Point Of Great Significance...Is The Keen Sensitivity Of The Wolf To The Condition Of It's Prey. In Judging What He Can Handle And What Should Prudently Be Left Alone, The Wolf Brings To His Daily Work Sophisticated Skills Completely Beyond Our Human Keen. These Are Made Possible By Inborn Capacities Effectively Tuned And Developed In The Young Wolf Through An Apprenticeship That Only The Capable Survive.

03-12-07, 02:42 PM	#5
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Yes, there's ships there and two convoy routes. The last time I went to Murmansk it was lightly guarded, that was in late '42 or early '43. I never had the nerve to go there in '44 though. Well, to be fair, I've never survived into '44. Doing battle with those Red convoys up north is awesome. Horrific storms, bitter cold, the ultimate clash between communism and fascism, Allied task forces sailing up and down up and down along the coast of Norway and the air thick with planes. Man, it doesn't get any better than that..... __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

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Jusa_Finn Bosun Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vantaa, Finland Posts: 67 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Isn't 1940 a bit early to attack Murmansk? __________________ It was a dark and stormy night... From the 1830 novel, 'Paul Clifford' by Edward George Bulwer-Lytton

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andy_311 The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oldham, Lancs,England Posts: 1,312 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	Been in there late 1940 yep lightly guarded and found a small tanker,couple of small merchants,s 2dd's some fishing boats and that's about it.

03-13-07, 10:12 AM	#12
AndyW Electrician's Mate Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 133 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Played two trips to Murmansk (March and July 1943). Not much guarding and an empty harbor. On my first trip I sunk two meager Soviet towboats, that's it. During my second trip I found a large convoy leaving Murmansk - and got sunk by the escorts. The mean problem in that area is the long daylight during summer - I reckommend that tours "up there" should be made in the dark winter times, but than again it's up to the BdU to decide this. Cheers, AndyW __________________ currently U-200 (Type IXD2) Ltn.z.See Schonder, 2nd patrol (July 1943) [SH3 1.4b + GWX 2.1 @ 90% realism + U-Jagdtools + LRT + Seadbed Repair, DiD] TOTAL: 11 careers, 47 patrols, 1,033 days at sea, 633,585 tons sunk