Japanese Shell colours

kc23 · 03-08-07, 01:10 PM

In the real war the Japanese Navy would use different colour dye in the shells for each gun for ranging. Anyone know if this will be in game?

I'm listening to books on tape ... Sea of Thunder, which goes in very serious detail about the battle of Leyte gulf.

Also will we see American Jeep carriers? The taffys?

Barkhorn1x · 03-08-07, 01:13 PM

Dont' know about shell colors - I doubt it tho'

The Casablanca class CVE is in - and half of all the screenshots and movies we have seen to date feature the battle off Samar in Oct. '44.

Just not paying attention, huh?

Safe-Keeper · 03-08-07, 01:33 PM

German AA guns did this, too. Each battery had its own colour, so that the officers could easily tell which batteries were hitting and which needed correcting. Allied pilots described heavy flak fire as "a fireworks of different colours".

hyperion2206 · 03-08-07, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kc23

In the real war the Japanese Navy would use different colour dye in the shells for each gun for ranging. Anyone know if this will be in game?

I'm listening to books on tape ... Sea of Thunder, which goes in very serious detail about the battle of Leyte gulf.

Also will we see American Jeep carriers? The taffys?

I'm not sure but I think I've read that US ships had colored shells and the Japanese were quite confused when they saw that.:hmm:

Schultzy · 03-08-07, 05:51 PM

They really did that? Wow, that's a way to keep motivational levels up eh?

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hyperion2206 · 03-08-07, 06:34 PM

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They really did that? Wow, that's a way to keep motivational levels up eh?

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kc23 · 03-08-07, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kc23

In the real war the Japanese Navy would use different colour dye in the shells for each gun for ranging. Anyone know if this will be in game?

I'm listening to books on tape ... Sea of Thunder, which goes in very serious detail about the battle of Leyte gulf.

Also will we see American Jeep carriers? The taffys?

I'm not sure but I think I've read that US ships had colored shells and the Japanese were quite confused when they saw that.:hmm:

You have that backwards according to the "Sea of Thunder". It was described in detail of how strange it looked ... each shell of the mighty 18" guns shooting up gysers of different coloured water.

Until I listen to that book I had no idea just how foolish Hawlsley had been in that battle. Despite the US victory it was clearly a cluster ****.

And right I really haven't been paying close attention. That's why I asked. :/

Crosseye76 · 03-08-07, 09:01 PM

I'm not sure We'd see that in SH4. That was mostly for the big guns, BB's and the like to aid spotting the fall of shot for corrections in long range shooting. Pretty in the day, not so much good at night. But when you don't have decent gunnery radar, you gotta do what you can do.

I kind of think if your close enough in a Fleet Submarine to observe the impact of Japanese heavy shells near something, you've got more problems to worry about than the color of the splash.

marky · 03-08-07, 10:10 PM

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Theyre shooting at us in technicolor!

Sailor on USS Johnston, Battle Off Samar

kc23 · 03-10-07, 10:04 PM

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Theyre shooting at us in technicolor!

Sailor on USS Johnston, Battle Off Samar

Evans must of gone mad, but wow what a sight that must of been. Sad about the shark attacks while they were waiting to be rescued. Sounded so horrifying, amazing any of them survived.

Torvald Von Mansee · 03-10-07, 10:35 PM

Heh. I just remember that the Yamato used pink dye at the Battle Of Leyte Gulf.

Drebbel · 03-11-07, 03:36 AM

AHA, that explains it !!!!

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fire-fox · 03-11-07, 03:49 AM

LMFAO:rotfl:

Mylander · 03-11-07, 07:34 AM

ROTFLMFAO! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

No wonder the Japanese lost the war at sea! They would try to dye their enemies' hulls pink with near misses to embarrass them off of the battlefield!

Then they'd raise these ridiculously huge flags that in a stiff breeze would cause their warships to capsize, hoping the Americans would be paralyzed with side-splitting laughter!:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

But seriously, yes, they did use different color dyes to spot their rounds from different ships firing the same caliber shells - makes some sense in daylight for fire control.

Mylander

hyperion2206 · 03-11-07, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kc23

In the real war the Japanese Navy would use different colour dye in the shells for each gun for ranging. Anyone know if this will be in game?

I'm listening to books on tape ... Sea of Thunder, which goes in very serious detail about the battle of Leyte gulf.

Also will we see American Jeep carriers? The taffys?

I'm not sure but I think I've read that US ships had colored shells and the Japanese were quite confused when they saw that.:hmm:

You have that backwards according to the "Sea of Thunder". It was described in detail of how strange it looked ... each shell of the mighty 18" guns shooting up gysers of different coloured water.

Until I listen to that book I had no idea just how foolish Hawlsley had been in that battle. Despite the US victory it was clearly a cluster ****.

And right I really haven't been paying close attention. That's why I asked. :/

I knew I wasn't wrong!

I just checked my book 'Auf allen Meeren' by Franz Kurowski and on page 305 it says that US cruisers used shells with carmine dye during the Battle of Java. It also says that the logbook of the ship 'Nachi' states that young officers were afraid of because of the dye.

03-08-07, 01:10 PM	#1
kc23 Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Japanese Shell colours In the real war the Japanese Navy would use different colour dye in the shells for each gun for ranging. Anyone know if this will be in game? I'm listening to books on tape ... Sea of Thunder, which goes in very serious detail about the battle of Leyte gulf. Also will we see American Jeep carriers? The taffys? __________________ Ken \"KC23\" Cook

03-08-07, 01:33 PM	#3
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	German AA guns did this, too. Each battery had its own colour, so that the officers could easily tell which batteries were hitting and which needed correcting. Allied pilots described heavy flak fire as "a fireworks of different colours". __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

03-08-07, 09:01 PM	#8
Crosseye76 Lieutenant Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 258 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm not sure We'd see that in SH4. That was mostly for the big guns, BB's and the like to aid spotting the fall of shot for corrections in long range shooting. Pretty in the day, not so much good at night. But when you don't have decent gunnery radar, you gotta do what you can do. I kind of think if your close enough in a Fleet Submarine to observe the impact of Japanese heavy shells near something, you've got more problems to worry about than the color of the splash. __________________ There are only two kinds of ships. Submarines and Targets.

03-10-07, 10:35 PM	#11
Torvald Von Mansee Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA4528 Posts: 1,693 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Heh. I just remember that the Yamato used pink dye at the Battle Of Leyte Gulf. __________________ "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" - Leon Trotsky

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03-08-07, 01:13 PM	#2
Barkhorn1x Captain Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Davie, FL Grid DM 23 Posts: 544 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Dont' know about shell colors - I doubt it tho' The Casablanca class CVE is in - and half of all the screenshots and movies we have seen to date feature the battle off Samar in Oct. '44. Just not paying attention, huh?

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Drebbel Dutch Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Almost at periscope death ! Posts: 1,665 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	AHA, that explains it !!!! + + =

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Mylander Torpedoman Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Bern, NC, USA Posts: 120 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	ROTFLMFAO! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: No wonder the Japanese lost the war at sea! They would try to dye their enemies' hulls pink with near misses to embarrass them off of the battlefield! Then they'd raise these ridiculously huge flags that in a stiff breeze would cause their warships to capsize, hoping the Americans would be paralyzed with side-splitting laughter!:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: But seriously, yes, they did use different color dyes to spot their rounds from different ships firing the same caliber shells - makes some sense in daylight for fire control. Mylander __________________ Periscope depth... Up Scope...