IIA to IID?

AJ! · 03-01-07, 03:02 PM

Would it be worth making the jump from my IIA to the IID or saving up my renown for a rainy day?
Been just under a year since i last played SH3 so i cant remember if theres any huge difference between the two subs

Personly i love the small II boats and dont want to make the jump to anything bigger like the VIIB for awhile

Morts · 03-01-07, 03:07 PM

only little bit more range and maybe diff. conning tower

Safe-Keeper · 03-01-07, 03:08 PM

Three times the range, mainly. Other than that, the differences aren't major.

I love those little boats, too.

Penelope_Grey · 03-01-07, 04:26 PM

They are class! They are the best boat available for harbour raiding, and also, they are extremely difficult to get a positive ASDIC lock on. So they can slip past destroyers quite easily. I love the IID best of all, believe me, the 500 renown to get one, it will pay for itself and then some in one patrol.

Mush Martin · 03-01-07, 04:27 PM

save it

melnibonian · 03-01-07, 04:30 PM

Type IIs are great boats but far too small. They lack fuel and torpedoes, and patrols last for a few days really. I like them but as soon as I can lay my hands on a nice sexy IXC my experience is complete. After that I never look back. Also trying to evade DDs in a IIA/D in late 1943-44 is near suicidal as they lack all the extra gizmos of the larger boats.

danurve · 03-01-07, 04:47 PM

Ahh the Küstenunterseeboot.

AJ!; You probably won't find to many that dislike the II's. They have a special attraction, good raiders, make for nice short patrols. Thing is, past mid `40 I find myself playing with more needs then das kleine Boot can provide. That being said I remember some real fun early war short patrols with a II. Never did bother with the IID, or even a flak gun with a II starting my current carrer. Although if a dual 20 was available any earlier or had I kept with the II long enough I would gotten that upgrade before a IID. Probably missed out on some good early war action in Grid AM as a result.

IRONxMortlock · 03-01-07, 06:44 PM

I'm in a Type VIIC now but previously in this career I'd done 16 patrols in Type IIs.

I think you'd be crazy not to upgrade to the Type IID. That extra range is SOOOOOO much better. More than three times the range of the Type IIA. In the IIa you can barely make it up to Scapa and back. In the IIDs you can escape the shallow and dangerous North Sea and comfortably cruise around the deeper and richer hunting grounds of the west coasts of Ireland and Scotland. The IID also has a slightly better submerged speed.

Also, if you're using GWX and in 1st Flotilla, the Type VIIs aren't going to become available for awhile so the small amount of renown needed for the IID is trivial.

Even if you were planning to upgrade to VIIs as soon as they are available (which it sounds like you're not) then it's IID FTW!

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Iron Budokan · 03-01-07, 07:01 PM

The difference between the IIA and the IID is significant. I like the IID a lot. It's a good little boat with decent range and a healthy sting. Give her a try.

03-01-07, 03:02 PM	#1
AJ! Commodore Join Date: May 2006 Location: That lil island above france Posts: 601 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	IIA to IID? Would it be worth making the jump from my IIA to the IID or saving up my renown for a rainy day? Been just under a year since i last played SH3 so i cant remember if theres any huge difference between the two subs Personly i love the small II boats and dont want to make the jump to anything bigger like the VIIB for awhile __________________

03-01-07, 03:08 PM	#3
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Three times the range, mainly. Other than that, the differences aren't major. I love those little boats, too. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

03-01-07, 04:26 PM	#4
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	They are class! They are the best boat available for harbour raiding, and also, they are extremely difficult to get a positive ASDIC lock on. So they can slip past destroyers quite easily. I love the IID best of all, believe me, the 500 renown to get one, it will pay for itself and then some in one patrol. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

03-01-07, 04:27 PM	#5
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	save it __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

03-01-07, 04:30 PM	#6
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Type IIs are great boats but far too small. They lack fuel and torpedoes, and patrols last for a few days really. I like them but as soon as I can lay my hands on a nice sexy IXC my experience is complete. After that I never look back. Also trying to evade DDs in a IIA/D in late 1943-44 is near suicidal as they lack all the extra gizmos of the larger boats. __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian

03-01-07, 03:07 PM	#2
Morts Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,395 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	only little bit more range and maybe diff. conning tower

03-01-07, 04:47 PM	#7
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	Ahh the Küstenunterseeboot. AJ!; You probably won't find to many that dislike the II's. They have a special attraction, good raiders, make for nice short patrols. Thing is, past mid `40 I find myself playing with more needs then das kleine Boot can provide. That being said I remember some real fun early war short patrols with a II. Never did bother with the IID, or even a flak gun with a II starting my current carrer. Although if a dual 20 was available any earlier or had I kept with the II long enough I would gotten that upgrade before a IID. Probably missed out on some good early war action in Grid AM as a result. __________________

03-01-07, 06:44 PM	#8
IRONxMortlock Watch Officer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 339 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I'm in a Type VIIC now but previously in this career I'd done 16 patrols in Type IIs. I think you'd be crazy not to upgrade to the Type IID. That extra range is SOOOOOO much better. More than three times the range of the Type IIA. In the IIa you can barely make it up to Scapa and back. In the IIDs you can escape the shallow and dangerous North Sea and comfortably cruise around the deeper and richer hunting grounds of the west coasts of Ireland and Scotland. The IID also has a slightly better submerged speed. Also, if you're using GWX and in 1st Flotilla, the Type VIIs aren't going to become available for awhile so the small amount of renown needed for the IID is trivial. Even if you were planning to upgrade to VIIs as soon as they are available (which it sounds like you're not) then it's IID FTW! ________ California medical marijuana Last edited by IRONxMortlock; 08-14-11 at 02:53 PM.

03-01-07, 07:01 PM	#9
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	The difference between the IIA and the IID is significant. I like the IID a lot. It's a good little boat with decent range and a healthy sting. Give her a try. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com