WHO's hat is in the ring?

U-533 · 01-15-07, 05:36 AM

Obama? ...is that how it's spelled?

A Muslim President...:hmm:

2008 should be a turning point here in America...

joea · 01-15-07, 05:49 AM

Do you think before writing? Barack Obama is Chrstian according to the wikpedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama#Personal_life

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While working at the corporate law firm Sidley Austin LLP in the summer of 1989, Obama met Michelle Robinson, then an associate attorney at the firm. They married in 1992, and have two daughters, Malia (born 1999) and Sasha (born 2001). The Obamas are members of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ.[113][114] Of his religious affiliation, Obama has written:

I was drawn to the power of the African American religious tradition to spur social change. [...] In the history of these struggles, I was able to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death; rather, it was an active, palpable agent in the world. [...] It was because of these newfound understandings–that religious commitment did not require me to suspend critical thinking, disengage from the battle for economic and social justice, or otherwise retreat from the world that I knew and loved–that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ one day and be baptized. It came about as a choice and not an epiphany; the questions I had did not magically disappear. But kneeling beneath that cross on the South Side of Chicago, I felt God's spirit beckoning me. I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth.[115]

(Footnote)

^ Obama (2006), pp. 207-208. Excerpted in: Obama, Barack. "My Spiritual Journey", TIME, October 23, 2006. Retrieved on January 13, 2007.

Really just becasue his name sounds like Osama, you can be more thoughtful.

U-533 · 01-15-07, 05:58 AM

As I have stated before one may claim he/she is Christian and not be so.

Thank you for pointing this out I will look deeper into it.

P.S. Not just because his name sounds like "Osama"

joea · 01-15-07, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by U-533

As I have stated before one may claim he/she is Christian and not be so.

Thank you for pointing this out I will look deeper into it.

P.S. Not just because his name sounds like "Osama"

Fair enough, but it doesn't mean he is Muslim, why did you think so?

Chaotic42 · 01-15-07, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by joea

Fair enough, but it doesn't mean he is Muslim, why did you think so?

His grandfather is Muslim and his name appears to come from an Arabic word (Link-http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archi...k_hussein.html).

I don't think he has a chance of winning. I'd like to see Colin Powell, but he's said that he won't run. Just as long as Hillary Clinton doesn't win...

bradclark1 · 01-15-07, 09:15 AM

I may very well give Hillary a go. Obama does not have enough experience yet in the political arena. Powell won't run, period. McCain for some reason makes me feel uneasy in a president roll. No one else floats my boat.
Father-Son, Husband-Wife. Seems logical to me.

The Avon Lady · 01-15-07, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaotic42

I'd like to see Colin Powell

The Avon Lady · 01-15-07, 09:21 AM

My pick: John Bolton.

Anything less just won't do.

Konovalov · 01-15-07, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

My pick: John Bolton.

Anything less just won't do.

You mean this guy?

baggygreen · 01-15-07, 09:29 AM

I reckon you might be surprised by Hillary, I think somehow she is a lot less... soft than billy (although he proved himself otherwise..

) Anyways, I reckon she might surprise you if given a chance.

Nothing fights harder than a mother defending her offspring....:hmm:

The Avon Lady · 01-15-07, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

My pick: John Bolton.

Anything less just won't do.

You mean this guy?

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...lov/Bolton.jpg

No. More like this guy:

Bully! Bully!

Konovalov · 01-15-07, 10:20 AM

Ah, he looks a respectable figure if not a little dated. I prefer the photo of him in his dear skin hunting gear and rifle.

Schatten · 01-15-07, 06:43 PM

Ollie North for President!

Barring that, I like the Avon Lady's pick.

As far as Obama is concerned I really don't care if he's a Muslim, Mormon or a Jew, but he simply isn't qualified to lead a Junior College debating team let alone a nation. That's it and that's that.

Ducimus · 01-15-07, 07:57 PM

I'd vote for Powell if he would run. A president and commander in cheif, i feel should have a good background in the military. Not a draft dodger, and not a fortunate son hiding from the draft in the air reserves. What's more he isnt a necon warhawk, and gives me the impression he would behave more wisely then the current crackpot.

The fact that he wont run tells me he's the right man for the job, and knows better then to jump into the crock of schitt that the oval office will be when Jr hands off his mess to the next president.

GSpector · 01-15-07, 11:19 PM

I agree, I'd vote for Powell if he would run too. The 1st and Primary job of the President of the United States is to protect this Country. Everything else comes second. Something the Clintons had no clue about. Both Oliver North and Colen Powell know this and would now how to do this, And still maintain the piece because they both know both sides of combat and would do what ever it take to prevent combat but would never back down when it came time to step up to bat.

I did not care for Hilary when she was playing Ms President before and I'm sure I'll like her less if it's for real.

01-15-07, 05:36 AM	#1
U-533 Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: On my Boat Posts: 594 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	WHO's hat is in the ring? Obama? ...is that how it's spelled? A Muslim President...:hmm: 2008 should be a turning point here in America...

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The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	My pick: John Bolton. Anything less just won't do. __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

01-15-07, 10:20 AM	#12
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Ah, he looks a respectable figure if not a little dated. I prefer the photo of him in his dear skin hunting gear and rifle. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

01-15-07, 06:43 PM	#13
Schatten Engineer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 212 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ollie North for President! Barring that, I like the Avon Lady's pick. As far as Obama is concerned I really don't care if he's a Muslim, Mormon or a Jew, but he simply isn't qualified to lead a Junior College debating team let alone a nation. That's it and that's that. __________________

01-15-07, 11:19 PM	#15
GSpector Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 676 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I agree, I'd vote for Powell if he would run too. The 1st and Primary job of the President of the United States is to protect this Country. Everything else comes second. Something the Clintons had no clue about. Both Oliver North and Colen Powell know this and would now how to do this, And still maintain the piece because they both know both sides of combat and would do what ever it take to prevent combat but would never back down when it came time to step up to bat. I did not care for Hilary when she was playing Ms President before and I'm sure I'll like her less if it's for real. __________________ Specter

01-15-07, 05:58 AM	#3
U-533 Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: On my Boat Posts: 594 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	As I have stated before one may claim he/she is Christian and not be so. Thank you for pointing this out I will look deeper into it. P.S. Not just because his name sounds like "Osama"

01-15-07, 09:15 AM	#6
bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I may very well give Hillary a go. Obama does not have enough experience yet in the political arena. Powell won't run, period. McCain for some reason makes me feel uneasy in a president roll. No one else floats my boat. Father-Son, Husband-Wife. Seems logical to me.

01-15-07, 09:29 AM	#10
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I reckon you might be surprised by Hillary, I think somehow she is a lot less... soft than billy (although he proved himself otherwise.. ) Anyways, I reckon she might surprise you if given a chance. Nothing fights harder than a mother defending her offspring....:hmm:

01-15-07, 07:57 PM	#14
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I'd vote for Powell if he would run. A president and commander in cheif, i feel should have a good background in the military. Not a draft dodger, and not a fortunate son hiding from the draft in the air reserves. What's more he isnt a necon warhawk, and gives me the impression he would behave more wisely then the current crackpot. The fact that he wont run tells me he's the right man for the job, and knows better then to jump into the crock of schitt that the oval office will be when Jr hands off his mess to the next president.