Anyone Running SH3 on an Intel Mac?

Mylander · 02-17-07, 05:47 PM

I am curious: is anyone else doing this? I am, and have been very pleased. I was always a "windows guy" until a few months ago. I got so tired of all of the bugs, viruses, incompatibility, and other garbage that PCs have been infected with.

In Mac-world, there is no such thing as a virus. Or any other malicious software for that matter. It is a non-issue.

The Mac OS was written with security foremost in mind. Windows is still based on it's original OS that was written before Al Gore had invented the internet or e-mail. This is why there are still huge security holes in windows which hackers and criminals freely exploit. Mac OS is all about security, windows pays lip-service to it. Meanwhile, there is a huge market for "protection money" i.e. McAfee, Norton, etc. folks write software to try to fix your broke-ass PC, and protect it from malicous software threats. It feels a little bit like organized crime: Norton: "This is a nice PC you've got here... We wouldn't want anything to happen to it, now would we?" "For a small fee..." you get the picture. Don't even get me started about all of the trash-ware which is pre-installed on your PC when you buy it.

I run SH3 with silky-smooth framerates with graphics maxed out. And get this: The Mac machine - - - works! All of the time!

I was a diehard windows man until a few months ago. Been at it for 17 years+ I have built my own PCs from the ground up, and I have bought them from Dell, HP etc... Started out on MS-DOS v2. Now, there is no PC out there that can compare to a intel based Mac. The high-end ones actually run windows software faster than the fastest PCs in benchmark tests. Go figure.

My argument against Macs was always "There's no software for them". Now that they have intel-based chips, PCs just plain suck. I no longer spend entire weekends "fixing" windows software and hardware conflicts.

I only wish that I didn't have to run windows to run SH3, et al. As far as I'm concerned, other than that, windows just wastes space on my HD.

Sorry to rant, but with my Mac, I feel like a man who has just been released from PC prison, and it is hard not to get excited about it and tell other people. What I'm saying is that Mac (wisely) realized that they had to get on board with all of the software written for windows, and it has always been the case that Macintosh builds a far superior machine that actually does what it's supposed to do, every time. The software is becoming more and more compatible, and the line is blurring between PCs and Macs. If I can run all available software, PCs have no advantage over Macs at all, IMHO.

The key to all of this is a program called "Boot Camp". When I start my machine, I decide whether I want to run Mac OS X Tiger, or WinXP. I can also "see" my Mac drives while in windows, and vice-versa.

Best Regards,
Andrew

Boris · 02-17-07, 05:52 PM

I would if macs weren't so damn expensive. I tried building a decent PC (equivalent to what I would normally want) on the apple shop site, and came up with something close to 4000 euros.
And doesn't the fact that you still have to run windows on the mac to play games make the virus thing redundant, since it is then virus prone?

Mylander · 02-17-07, 06:11 PM

I may be incorrect here, but the research I did before buying the Mac led me to believe that the cost of a top-notch power Mac is very comparable to that of a top-notch PC from Dell, etc... It may be that folks with sufficient knowledge can build their own PCs for less. I haven't built my own for several years, and my knowledge in that department is probably outdated, so I didn't look at that option.

And yes, I still have to do all of the same "securing" of the windows side of my machine - pisses me off - which is why I wish I didn't even have to mess with windows. Maybe someday, but for now I still have to do that to use the PC software. The Mac side remains secure though. The cool thing is, it always works.

Best Regards,

Andrew

Boris · 02-17-07, 06:28 PM

What did you spend on your Mac?

I wouldn't dream of buying some brand name package PC like a Dell, HP, or some other con. Overpriced and underpowered.

But I respect Macs for their quality.

flintlock · 02-17-07, 06:29 PM

I've been using Macs for years and really enjoy the experience. OS X is a truly fantastic OS to use (hey, who can argue Unix heritage?). I use my PC for gaming, and do everthing else on OS X. I'm actually pretty excited for WWDC '07 to roll around and see what new hardware Apple may release.

Haven't played SH3 on my Mac as I dislike the 4:3 1024x768 being stretched to a native 16:10 aspect ratio. Though I did have SB Pro PE (tank sim) installed on it at one point, and it ran quite well.

Mylander · 02-17-07, 06:45 PM

I think my Mac was about $4K. Very satisfied with it. Boot Camp is the Key - and it will be native and supported by Mac in the next version of Mac OS. It's beta right now, but works like a charm.

Regards,
Andrew

02-17-07, 05:47 PM	#1
Mylander Torpedoman Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Bern, NC, USA Posts: 120 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Anyone Running SH3 on an Intel Mac? I am curious: is anyone else doing this? I am, and have been very pleased. I was always a "windows guy" until a few months ago. I got so tired of all of the bugs, viruses, incompatibility, and other garbage that PCs have been infected with. In Mac-world, there is no such thing as a virus. Or any other malicious software for that matter. It is a non-issue. The Mac OS was written with security foremost in mind. Windows is still based on it's original OS that was written before Al Gore had invented the internet or e-mail. This is why there are still huge security holes in windows which hackers and criminals freely exploit. Mac OS is all about security, windows pays lip-service to it. Meanwhile, there is a huge market for "protection money" i.e. McAfee, Norton, etc. folks write software to try to fix your broke-ass PC, and protect it from malicous software threats. It feels a little bit like organized crime: Norton: "This is a nice PC you've got here... We wouldn't want anything to happen to it, now would we?" "For a small fee..." you get the picture. Don't even get me started about all of the trash-ware which is pre-installed on your PC when you buy it. I run SH3 with silky-smooth framerates with graphics maxed out. And get this: The Mac machine - - - works! All of the time! I was a diehard windows man until a few months ago. Been at it for 17 years+ I have built my own PCs from the ground up, and I have bought them from Dell, HP etc... Started out on MS-DOS v2. Now, there is no PC out there that can compare to a intel based Mac. The high-end ones actually run windows software faster than the fastest PCs in benchmark tests. Go figure. My argument against Macs was always "There's no software for them". Now that they have intel-based chips, PCs just plain suck. I no longer spend entire weekends "fixing" windows software and hardware conflicts. I only wish that I didn't have to run windows to run SH3, et al. As far as I'm concerned, other than that, windows just wastes space on my HD. Sorry to rant, but with my Mac, I feel like a man who has just been released from PC prison, and it is hard not to get excited about it and tell other people. What I'm saying is that Mac (wisely) realized that they had to get on board with all of the software written for windows, and it has always been the case that Macintosh builds a far superior machine that actually does what it's supposed to do, every time. The software is becoming more and more compatible, and the line is blurring between PCs and Macs. If I can run all available software, PCs have no advantage over Macs at all, IMHO. The key to all of this is a program called "Boot Camp". When I start my machine, I decide whether I want to run Mac OS X Tiger, or WinXP. I can also "see" my Mac drives while in windows, and vice-versa. Best Regards, Andrew __________________ Periscope depth... Up Scope...

02-17-07, 06:11 PM	#3
Mylander Torpedoman Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Bern, NC, USA Posts: 120 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	I may be incorrect here, but the research I did before buying the Mac led me to believe that the cost of a top-notch power Mac is very comparable to that of a top-notch PC from Dell, etc... It may be that folks with sufficient knowledge can build their own PCs for less. I haven't built my own for several years, and my knowledge in that department is probably outdated, so I didn't look at that option. And yes, I still have to do all of the same "securing" of the windows side of my machine - pisses me off - which is why I wish I didn't even have to mess with windows. Maybe someday, but for now I still have to do that to use the PC software. The Mac side remains secure though. The cool thing is, it always works. Best Regards, Andrew __________________ Periscope depth... Up Scope...

02-17-07, 06:45 PM	#6
Mylander Torpedoman Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Bern, NC, USA Posts: 120 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	I think my Mac was about $4K. Very satisfied with it. Boot Camp is the Key - and it will be native and supported by Mac in the next version of Mac OS. It's beta right now, but works like a charm. Regards, Andrew __________________ Periscope depth... Up Scope...

02-17-07, 05:52 PM	#2
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	I would if macs weren't so damn expensive. I tried building a decent PC (equivalent to what I would normally want) on the apple shop site, and came up with something close to 4000 euros. And doesn't the fact that you still have to run windows on the mac to play games make the virus thing redundant, since it is then virus prone?

02-17-07, 06:28 PM	#4
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	What did you spend on your Mac? I wouldn't dream of buying some brand name package PC like a Dell, HP, or some other con. Overpriced and underpowered. But I respect Macs for their quality.

02-17-07, 06:29 PM	#5
flintlock Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,177 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've been using Macs for years and really enjoy the experience. OS X is a truly fantastic OS to use (hey, who can argue Unix heritage?). I use my PC for gaming, and do everthing else on OS X. I'm actually pretty excited for WWDC '07 to roll around and see what new hardware Apple may release. Haven't played SH3 on my Mac as I dislike the 4:3 1024x768 being stretched to a native 16:10 aspect ratio. Though I did have SB Pro PE (tank sim) installed on it at one point, and it ran quite well.