Neutral Ships question.

Linavitch · 02-14-07, 07:58 AM

I'm playing GWX with SH3 Gen as well. Patrol date Sep 1940.

Upon opening my orders I am informed to consider any merchant heading to the UK as a fair target as the trade is considered illegal. I've just sunk a Large Tanker (19,000t

, biggest ship I've sunk) sailing under the US flag. When I quit the game for bedtime it showed up as a neutral ship.

So the question is: Will I receive the reknown award for sinking the vessel or will I be court marshalled and executed when I return to base? (although it is patrol 2 so i might not make it back)

STEED · 02-14-07, 08:01 AM

Great kill but you just lost renown points for that one. On saying that I sink French ships so who cares, on the up side Bdu may give you the Iron Cross Second Class for that bit of destruction.

Mooncatt · 02-14-07, 08:06 AM

the US didnt enter the war until later years so you will loose renown and maybe have to start your career again if you play DID.

AVGWarhawk · 02-14-07, 08:23 AM

No renown and you have "Awoken a sleeping giant".

Linavitch · 02-14-07, 08:44 AM

Damn it! It was such a sweet intercept and kill. AND IT WAS 19,000t

So to clarify then. Even if SH3 Gen orders you to wage war against merchants supplying the enemies of the fatherland the engine doesn't recognise them as legitimate targets?

Morts · 02-14-07, 08:46 AM

SH3 gen is just for eye candy
you dont get any renown for completing the objectives

Linavitch · 02-14-07, 08:56 AM

Cheers for the advice guys.

Might not post for a while because I think I'm off to the eastern front.

mookiemookie · 02-14-07, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Linavitch

Cheers for the advice guys.

Might not post for a while because I think I'm off to the eastern front.

:rotfl:

Unfortunately, you're spot on. The game doesn't recognize neutral ships supplying Britain as valid targets. But that kind of models real life, as Hitler tried to keep the U.S. out of the war as long as possible. They knew very well that the U.S. was supplying Britain, but in order to avoid a public international incident and turning U.S. public opinion against them (remember, the U.S. public sentiment was very isolationist before Pearl Harbor...everyone saw it as Europe's war and Europe's problem) they went out of their way to avoid U.S. ships.

Same goes for ships in convoy. If you sink a neutral, even though it's surrounded by enemy ships, it still counts as a neutral. That part I don't quite agree with, but hey....we gotta work with what the game engine gives us.

02-14-07, 07:58 AM	#1
Linavitch Officer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hull Posts: 239 Downloads: 170 Uploads: 0	Neutral Ships question. I'm playing GWX with SH3 Gen as well. Patrol date Sep 1940. Upon opening my orders I am informed to consider any merchant heading to the UK as a fair target as the trade is considered illegal. I've just sunk a Large Tanker (19,000t , biggest ship I've sunk) sailing under the US flag. When I quit the game for bedtime it showed up as a neutral ship. So the question is: Will I receive the reknown award for sinking the vessel or will I be court marshalled and executed when I return to base? (although it is patrol 2 so i might not make it back)

02-14-07, 08:01 AM	#2
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Great kill but you just lost renown points for that one. On saying that I sink French ships so who cares, on the up side Bdu may give you the Iron Cross Second Class for that bit of destruction. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

02-14-07, 08:06 AM	#3
Mooncatt Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Keighley UK Posts: 938 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	the US didnt enter the war until later years so you will loose renown and maybe have to start your career again if you play DID. __________________

02-14-07, 08:23 AM	#4
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,254 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	No renown and you have "Awoken a sleeping giant". __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

02-14-07, 08:44 AM	#5
Linavitch Officer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hull Posts: 239 Downloads: 170 Uploads: 0	Damn it! It was such a sweet intercept and kill. AND IT WAS 19,000t So to clarify then. Even if SH3 Gen orders you to wage war against merchants supplying the enemies of the fatherland the engine doesn't recognise them as legitimate targets?

02-14-07, 08:46 AM	#6
Morts Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,395 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	SH3 gen is just for eye candy you dont get any renown for completing the objectives

02-14-07, 08:56 AM	#7
Linavitch Officer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hull Posts: 239 Downloads: 170 Uploads: 0	Cheers for the advice guys. Might not post for a while because I think I'm off to the eastern front.