GWX and "Small Freighter"

Woof1701 · 01-06-07, 06:56 PM

Hi GWX Dev Team,

The damage models of the ships have been a topic for discussion from the beginning of SH3. Especially the opinion that most merchant ships should sink with the first torpedo, since they are not built to withstand a torpedo attack or a mine, but in SH3 many larger merchants (T2, T3, C2, C3) most of the time needed two torpedoes to sink them.
You did some amazing work with the new damage models, and I like them a lot, but I'm really having a problem with the small freighter (derricks fore and aft, one central funnel, approx. 2000 tons). Maybe it's just coincidence, maybe I'm paranoid from being used to the unsinkable C2 freighter of vanilla SH3, but they really start to get on my nerves.

With the install of GWX I started a new career in Kiel in 1939 and have been taking out my trusty tiny Typ IIA for 6 patrols to the North Sea and each time encountered at least one of those little beasties flying the English flag. And each time I maneuvered my Typ II in a perfect 90° firing position, went close to 350-500 meters (most times below 400 meters) and fired a T1 torpedo right in the middle about 1 meter below the keel. Since I play without external and event cameras I couldn't exactly see whether it really exploded below the keel, but the fountain was right in the middle below the funnel. As it is, the little ship shouldn't stand a chance against a torpedo and break up or at least sink pretty quickly - no matter whether I hit it right below the keel or just deep below the waterline. No such luck. Each and every time the ship steamed on for about half a kilometer and then came to a stop taking on a slight list to the side it was hit from. The list however didn't increase but stayed about the same.

Twice I stayed with the ships for two days straight(just to make sure) but it wouldn't sink. So I had to put another torpedo into it to finish it off. Once I was jumped by some aircraft that luckily missed me and i got away unscathed. Next time I was lucky and ran across a large tanker (T3) with 10.000 tons and sank him with the first torpedo. Took about half an hour, but it sank. Same with a tug (? - in German it's Schlepper and also has about 1800 tons and thus is almost as big as a small freighter). One torpedo easily blasted it out of the water.

Please don't get me wrong. I know that the work you did was awfully time consuming and meticulous, but the new damage model of this small freighter is somewhat unsatisfactory (at least to me) so in case you got the time I'd be really glad if you found a way to look it over once more for your 31st January update.

Thanks a lot for all you did for SH3. GWX is really a blast.

Best regards
Andreas

01-06-07, 06:56 PM	#1
Woof1701 Commodore Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Munich, Germany, Home of U-96 Posts: 633 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	GWX and "Small Freighter" Hi GWX Dev Team, The damage models of the ships have been a topic for discussion from the beginning of SH3. Especially the opinion that most merchant ships should sink with the first torpedo, since they are not built to withstand a torpedo attack or a mine, but in SH3 many larger merchants (T2, T3, C2, C3) most of the time needed two torpedoes to sink them. You did some amazing work with the new damage models, and I like them a lot, but I'm really having a problem with the small freighter (derricks fore and aft, one central funnel, approx. 2000 tons). Maybe it's just coincidence, maybe I'm paranoid from being used to the unsinkable C2 freighter of vanilla SH3, but they really start to get on my nerves. With the install of GWX I started a new career in Kiel in 1939 and have been taking out my trusty tiny Typ IIA for 6 patrols to the North Sea and each time encountered at least one of those little beasties flying the English flag. And each time I maneuvered my Typ II in a perfect 90° firing position, went close to 350-500 meters (most times below 400 meters) and fired a T1 torpedo right in the middle about 1 meter below the keel. Since I play without external and event cameras I couldn't exactly see whether it really exploded below the keel, but the fountain was right in the middle below the funnel. As it is, the little ship shouldn't stand a chance against a torpedo and break up or at least sink pretty quickly - no matter whether I hit it right below the keel or just deep below the waterline. No such luck. Each and every time the ship steamed on for about half a kilometer and then came to a stop taking on a slight list to the side it was hit from. The list however didn't increase but stayed about the same. Twice I stayed with the ships for two days straight(just to make sure) but it wouldn't sink. So I had to put another torpedo into it to finish it off. Once I was jumped by some aircraft that luckily missed me and i got away unscathed. Next time I was lucky and ran across a large tanker (T3) with 10.000 tons and sank him with the first torpedo. Took about half an hour, but it sank. Same with a tug (? - in German it's Schlepper and also has about 1800 tons and thus is almost as big as a small freighter). One torpedo easily blasted it out of the water. Please don't get me wrong. I know that the work you did was awfully time consuming and meticulous, but the new damage model of this small freighter is somewhat unsatisfactory (at least to me) so in case you got the time I'd be really glad if you found a way to look it over once more for your 31st January update. Thanks a lot for all you did for SH3. GWX is really a blast. Best regards Andreas