MultiSH3

[Bill Dickson]

I have installed the program and have successfully made multiple installs of SH3, but I cant make multiple installs of SH3 Commander.

I have tried to follow the instructions in the MultiSH3 readme but SH3 Commander keeps defaulting to the stock SH3 install.

In the readme it says "to specify a game location other than the default launch it with the /1 switch". Maybe this is where I am going wrong, what is the /1 switch, can sombody explain this please and give me further advice on how to make multiple installs of SH3 Commander for TGW and NYGM

Thanks,

[kylania]

I have two installs:

C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves and C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\NYGM

I have two installs of SH3 Commander:

C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe and C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander NYGM\SH3Cmdr.exe

On my desktop I have two SH3 Commander links:

"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves"

and

"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander NYGM\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\NYGM"

So install your SH3 Commander twice into seperate directories. Than rclick on the Desktop Shortcut and change the Target property to add the proper /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves" flag to it. Do the same for the other copy's desktop shortcut. I usually rename the SH3 Commander shortcuts to "GM" and "NYGM" to tell them apart easily.

The flag is a lower case L not a 1 by the way. /l not /1.

I actually have 8 SH3 icons on my desktop. The SH3 Commander, SH3 itself, SH3Patrol or SH3Gen, shortcut to the install directory, shortcut to the career files directory per install.

[robj250]

Originally Posted by kylania

I have two installs:

C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves and C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\NYGM

I have two installs of SH3 Commander:

C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe and C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander NYGM\SH3Cmdr.exe

On my desktop I have two SH3 Commander links:

"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves"

and

"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander NYGM\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\NYGM"

So install your SH3 Commander twice into seperate directories. Than rclick on the Desktop Shortcut and change the Target property to add the proper /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves" flag to it. Do the same for the other copy's desktop shortcut. I usually rename the SH3 Commander shortcuts to "GM" and "NYGM" to tell them apart easily.

The flag is a lower case L not a 1 by the way. /l not /1.

I actually have 8 SH3 icons on my desktop. The SH3 Commander, SH3 itself, SH3Patrol or SH3Gen, shortcut to the install directory, shortcut to the career files directory per install.

How do you deal with JSGME in installing mods in your different installs of SH3?

[kylania]

Originally Posted by robj250

How do you deal with JSGME in installing mods in your different installs of SH3?

I have a JSGME exe file in each of the install directories that only handled mods for that particular install.

[robj250]

Originally Posted by kylania

I have a JSGME exe file in each of the install directories that only handled mods for that particular install.

So if you have a desktop shortcut for JSGME, you rename it to lead to the SH3 install you have then just like you did with CMDR

[kylania]

Actually I have short cuts to the install folders of GW and NYGM, and any time I need JSGME I just open the install folder and run it from there.

[JScones]

Whilst players can have one install of SH3Cmdr and use shortcuts to point it to their different installs of SH3, I strongly recommend, particularly if one of your SH3 installations is NYGM, that you have multiple installs of SH3Cmdr.

This ensures, with 100% certainty, that you will not have any "accidental" cross-pollenation between your different SH3 installs. It's particularly important if one of your installs is NYGM, as NYGM modifies certain files in a way that makes their structure different from the stock, and other mods', files.

It also means that you can have unique settings and files for each SH3 installation. For example, you may want to use the combined ship skins add-on with your NYGM install, but not with your GW install. Or you may want the sabotage effects enabled with NYGM, but not with GW, and so on. Essentially, separate SH3Cmdr installs gives you maximum flexibility.

Re JSGME, simply copy JSGME.exe into each install of SH3 and run it from there. It will automatically pick up the "related" SH3 installation folder.

[Potoroo]

Originally Posted by JScones

Whilst players can have one install of SH3Cmdr and use shortcuts to point it to their different installs of SH3, I strongly recommend, particularly if one of your SH3 installations is NYGM, that you have multiple installs of SH3Cmdr.

Would you like me to update the MultiSH3 readme to reflect this?

Re JSGME, simply copy JSGME.exe into each install of SH3 and run it from there. It will automatically pick up the "related" SH3 installation folder.

The MultiSH3 readme suggests that if starting a multiple SH3 installation where you want to use JSGME that you install it in the stock game folder, run it once and create the game files snapshot before proceeding. It's just a convenience to do it that way rather than actually installing it manually each time, as every game copy then starts with a copy of the stock snapshot to restore to in the event of a problem.

[robj250]

A thought just came to me. In the "My Documents" folder, is the folder SH3 where the games and careers are stored. Naturally, there would be a backup of that file for each SH3 game running: i.e. backupSH3TGW and backupSH3U55.

I noticed there is a file called Personnel. Should I also make a backup of that file for the appropriate games?

[kylania]

The "Personnel Files" folder in My Documents is from SH3 Commander, not SH3 itself. You can surely back it up, or recreate the files from SH3 Commander when you want them.

[robj250]

Originally Posted by kylania

The "Personnel Files" folder in My Documents is from SH3 Commander, not SH3 itself. You can surely back it up, or recreate the files from SH3 Commander when you want them.

Yes, Kylania, I knew that file was generated by SH3 CMDR and not the game itself. So I do not really need to worry about it.

Ok. I also use SH3 Gen. Can that be used for all my installs as well?

[GlobalExplorer]

Originally Posted by robj250

Yes, Kylania, I knew that file was generated by SH3 CMDR and not the game itself. So I do not really need to worry about it.

Ok. I also use SH3 Gen. Can that be used for all my installs as well?

Should work, because you set the path manually. Simply browse to the alternative one.

Can you report to me if it works?

[robj250]

Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer

Should work, because you set the path manually. Simply browse to the alternative one.

Can you report to me if it works?

Didn't work. The second install of SH3 commander with the link to TGW didn't work and now my SH3 CMDR for my other U-55 won't work either

[robj250]

Originally Posted by kylania

I have two installs:

C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves and C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\NYGM

I have two installs of SH3 Commander:

C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe and C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander NYGM\SH3Cmdr.exe

On my desktop I have two SH3 Commander links:

"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves"

and

"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander NYGM\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\NYGM"

So install your SH3 Commander twice into seperate directories. Than rclick on the Desktop Shortcut and change the Target property to add the proper /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves" flag to it. Do the same for the other copy's desktop shortcut. I usually rename the SH3 Commander shortcuts to "GM" and "NYGM" to tell them apart easily.

The flag is a lower case L not a 1 by the way. /l not /1.

I actually have 8 SH3 icons on my desktop. The SH3 Commander, SH3 itself, SH3Patrol or SH3Gen, shortcut to the install directory, shortcut to the career files directory per install.

Hi, Everything worked fine with only 1 SH3 CMDR installed and shows in the add/remove folder. How can you get two installs of SH3 CMDR. I cannot.

Now my previous shortcut for SH3 CMDR to my U-55 SH3 files will not work.

This is really giving me a headache.

I take it that you only have ONE SH3 CMDR 2.5 installed in your program files.

I also cannot figure out what you mean by shortcut directory perinstall.

I'm all confused.

Just by chance, does your SH3 installs have Ubisoft\silenthunterIII

or does it have ubisoft\U-55 for example (using my game) and then one ubisoft\GreyWolves

so that the folder SilentHunterIII does not appear in your Ubisoft folders.....

and then how do I rig up shortcuts for my career files?

Sorry Kylana, but this is very confusing for me. I can get the red shortcuts to the two different games to work, but I cannot get the CMDR to work.

[kylania]

Here's a copy of the PM I sent you in case anyone else is having issues. I have TWO installs of SH3, SH3 Commander, JSGME, MultiSH3 each. JSGME and MultiSH3 are installed in each of the base SH3 installs though so no problems there. SH3 and SH3 Commander are installed as described below:

Originally Posted by robj250

I am really having problems trying to get my two SH3 installs to work using CMDR 2.5 and I don't understand what you mean by shortcuts for your careers. Could you please explain. Robert

No problem at all!

Below you'll find a screenshot of the 10 shortcuts I have for SH3 and my two installs. I'll try to describe what each one does.

GW Install has 4 parts and 5 icons:

SH3 installed to: C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves
SH3 Commander installed to: C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander
Using MultiSH3 program I've set my career files to reside in My Documents\GW1 instead of My Documents\SH3
I've installed SH3Gen into C:\Program Files\SH3Gen

The five icons I have, 1 - 5 in the picture are links to each of these places.

The first is a link to my career files if I ever need to mess around with log files or view my personal web files that SH3 Commander makes.

The second is a link to the install folder for GW, where I can use my JSGME program to install new mods or view my screenshots.

The third link is to start SH3 itself, without using SH3 Commander.

The fourth link is to start SH3 Commander with a link to the GreyWolves install folder.

The fifth link is to SH3Gen, an optional "intelligence report" app.


NYGM Install has 4 parts and 5 icons:

SH3 installed to: C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\NYGM
SH3 Commander installed to: C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander NYGM
Using MultiSH3 program I've set my career files to reside in My Documents\TON instead of My Documents\SH3
I've installed SH3Patrol into My Documents\TON\data\cfg per it's install.

The five icons I have, 1 - 5 in the picture are links to each of these places.

The first is a link to my career files if I ever need to mess around with log files or view my personal web files that SH3 Commander makes.

The second is a link to the install folder for NYGM, where I can use my JSGME program to install new mods or view my screenshots.

The third link is to start SH3 itself, without using SH3 Commander.

The fourth link is to start SH3 Commander with a link to the NYGM install folder.

The fifth link is to SH3Patrol, an optional program to help with MilkCows and reassigning patrol grids.

I hope this clears up the multiple installs thing for you, please ask if you have any questions about it.


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So I actually have three installs of SH3 right now. Ubisoft\GreyWolves, Ubisoft\NYGM and Ubisoft\SilenthunterIII. I also have three career folders, MyDocs\GW1, MyDocs\TON and MyDocs\SH3. I however don't use the MyDocs\SH3 at all, and I don't use the Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII at all, other than to copy from when I need a fresh install.