GWX - tactical Help needed!

MRV · 12-18-06, 06:53 PM

ping.....ping.....ping......ping......sorry, Im about to go mad

its the only thing a have heared for about 10 hours in-game by now in September 1939. Its a tribal, it's out of DC's and just circling around preventing me from surfacing while relentlessly PING.....PING.....PINGING me.

I just CANT dive deeper than 25 Meters here, I'm running silent and slow.

what sould I do?

ping.....ping.....ping....

VIICDriver · 12-18-06, 06:58 PM

Kill it.

Chuck

MRV · 12-18-06, 07:00 PM

One word

meanwhile i did, but asked myself if this will be the only way to get rid of those guys in GWX. o.O this would mean I can alt + f4 and load a save everytime a DD spots me in the northern sea because its very shallow.

AI just lacks the frustration and the felt urge to give up.......

VIICDriver · 12-18-06, 07:06 PM

Just messing with ya but sometimes you will have to just shoot them. In shallow water it sucks. I usually just get down to about 1 knot as deep as possible and just keep heading on course. Hopefully sooner or later it will get bored and run off. Try to find deeper water of course but sure you already know that.

I have also sat on the bottom before and shut everything down and after an hour or 2 they'll leave. I once sat amongst the grave of a C3 I had killed. Nestled right up to it and it seemed they could no longer "see" me.

Best of luck
Chuck

MRV · 12-18-06, 07:13 PM

Damn, that thing called its brother and now I have another one circling around my conning tower.

*gets out with a big hammer and dents the keel of that sucker* THIS IS HOW THIS SOUNDS YOU §(§%/§%()§="(!!!!!!!

To all former beta testers, I really enjoy the work that was done by all of you, but hasn't someone encountered this situation before?

MRV · 12-18-06, 07:29 PM

Alright, its 13:30 ingame now, i'm out of torpedoes -because of duds and misses trying to kill the THIRD DD coming up- and battery power and have been chased for full 24 hours now.

I tried everything, the last 6 hours I spent grounded waiting.

I'm now terminating this patrol and going to bed.

I surrender to the (death-)pingbots -.-

In Sh4 and 5 pleeeease make those DD's GIVE UP when they are out of DC's and there is also no ship around that has DC's left. (If someone does, they still are useful to hold sonar contact) This would still suffice for hours of DC chasings.

Letum · 12-18-06, 08:06 PM

There are sevral cases in real life when DDs just sat and waited where they thaught there might be a sub.
Costal DDs usualy didn't have anythign better to do if there was no convoy to defend.
It's exsactly what I would do if I was commanding a DD.

If you have tryed everything else than try and make a break for it on the surface at night. It has worked for me in a TypeIIA.
Just don't go to fast or you will be spottes and keep the DD at 180* from you so you look small. If you can get 300m+ away with out being spotted then you are almost free.

mookiemookie · 12-18-06, 08:30 PM

All stop, rest on the bottom.

Heck its worth a try, eh?

Mast · 12-18-06, 08:35 PM

Sonar in 1939? That doesn't seem right. I thought sonar came out in mid/late 1940.

Mast

peterloo · 12-18-06, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRV

ping.....ping.....ping......ping......sorry, Im about to go mad

its the only thing a have heared for about 10 hours in-game by now in September 1939. Its a tribal, it's out of DC's and just circling around preventing me from surfacing while relentlessly PING.....PING.....PINGING me.

I just CANT dive deeper than 25 Meters here, I'm running silent and slow.

what sould I do?

ping.....ping.....ping....

(1) Rig for silent running

(2) See your direction and waypoints. Change course to German base in order to discourage that DD to chase after you.

(3) Also check that how many DDs are there

(4) If you are attacking a convoy, you are lucky since DDs will start leaving you and go back to the convoy 1~2 hours after hunting

(5) If you are chased by 2~3 destroyers, then you need more patientance

(6) For me, at 25m, there is no way to evade. The only way is to kill the destroyers while you try to run away. I will silently go back to periscope depth, after checking how many fish I own. If I get 1 or 2 fishes ready, I will try to kill a destroyer will them. Wait until the DD run straight from the back, then launch stern tube / when circling, grab the right chance, use MAGNETIC DETONATOR and fire bow fish

(7) Before the torpedo impact (5~10s), dive again

(8) If your torpedoes successfully destroyed 1 DD, then the remaining task will be easier and it will discourage them to chase after you

But, wait, WHERE YOU ARE???

NEVER GET CLOSE TO ENGLAND. SPEND MORE DIESEL AND ENROUTE NORTH OF SCAPE FLOW. ITS EMPTY AND ONLY SINGLE DD PATROL. IF YOU INSIST GO TO DOVER TO PLAY, KAPTAIN, YOUR GAME IS OVER AS YOUR BOAT BEING CHASED BY 5~6 DDs

stabiz · 12-18-06, 09:30 PM

Shallow water is dangerous. Repeat after me ...

U-snafu · 12-18-06, 11:57 PM

Set speed to 2 or 1 kts---keep your stern facing the dd as you manuver (to give it the narrowest profile)----speed up to flank and do sharp course change while it is in it's attack run and dc'ing--then back to 2 kt or below w/ butt facing the dd--with luck & patience-eventually you should be able to get out of it's circleling and slink away.

12-19-06, 01:12 AM

another tip

Dont reload your torp while you ander DC attack
Ring and stay in silent running
Dont repare the uboat unless you dont have another choise.

Why? Because all thise make some noice and you should be silent as a fish

Also remember - dont use the C (ALARM!!! buutton) unless you dont have another choise.

And for god sake dont travel to enemy harbours - no offence but you probably not captaine Prien

Good luck

Pants · 12-19-06, 03:47 AM

If it's out of DC's and you don't want to waste a torp on him make a run for it full speed ( submerged ) untill you make deeper water..you will be able to lose him then

Cap.Palla · 12-19-06, 04:07 AM

Well...i don't think you can be silent as a fish even if in silent running. I explain :

i intercepted a large convoy in AL 03 ... i have advantage so i get my U-29 exacly at 90°STB respect the concoy course. Off course the head of convoy is made by a DD and i have to wait he pass me ... well i was at periscope depth ,all stop,silent running and in a calm sea(and periscope down) and i was sure the DD pass me without any problem! But for some reason,the DD start pingin me ...ping...ping...ping....so i turn to give him my short profile and go to 50m .....again...ping ping pign pign pign...deep charge in water sir! Luckily the charges are not so accurate and i can reach the center of the convoy ......
I returned home with a 29K tonnage ... but was not so easy...DDs and Corvette give me a 8 houars hunt....they damaged my compressor and sonar room!

Well...i dont remember why post.....ah yes....i was all stop,silent runing and DD pinged me!!! WHY ?

12-18-06, 06:53 PM	#1
MRV Frogman Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 296 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	GWX - tactical Help needed! ping.....ping.....ping......ping......sorry, Im about to go mad its the only thing a have heared for about 10 hours in-game by now in September 1939. Its a tribal, it's out of DC's and just circling around preventing me from surfacing while relentlessly PING.....PING.....PINGING me. I just CANT dive deeper than 25 Meters here, I'm running silent and slow. what sould I do? ping.....ping.....ping....

12-18-06, 08:30 PM	#8
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	All stop, rest on the bottom. Heck its worth a try, eh? __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

12-18-06, 09:30 PM	#11
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Shallow water is dangerous. Repeat after me ... __________________

12-18-06, 11:57 PM	#12
U-snafu XO Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 405 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	Set speed to 2 or 1 kts---keep your stern facing the dd as you manuver (to give it the narrowest profile)----speed up to flank and do sharp course change while it is in it's attack run and dc'ing--then back to 2 kt or below w/ butt facing the dd--with luck & patience-eventually you should be able to get out of it's circleling and slink away. __________________ .."Some men are born mediocre, some men acheive mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them"...

12-19-06, 03:47 AM	#14
Pants Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Somewhere in the Atlantic Posts: 849 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	If it's out of DC's and you don't want to waste a torp on him make a run for it full speed ( submerged ) untill you make deeper water..you will be able to lose him then __________________ Ex GWX Dev Team member and proud GWX user

12-18-06, 06:58 PM	#2
VIICDriver Engineer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lynchburg, VA Posts: 203 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Kill it. Chuck

12-18-06, 07:00 PM	#3
MRV Frogman Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 296 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	One word meanwhile i did, but asked myself if this will be the only way to get rid of those guys in GWX. o.O this would mean I can alt + f4 and load a save everytime a DD spots me in the northern sea because its very shallow. AI just lacks the frustration and the felt urge to give up.......

12-18-06, 07:06 PM	#4
VIICDriver Engineer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lynchburg, VA Posts: 203 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Just messing with ya but sometimes you will have to just shoot them. In shallow water it sucks. I usually just get down to about 1 knot as deep as possible and just keep heading on course. Hopefully sooner or later it will get bored and run off. Try to find deeper water of course but sure you already know that. I have also sat on the bottom before and shut everything down and after an hour or 2 they'll leave. I once sat amongst the grave of a C3 I had killed. Nestled right up to it and it seemed they could no longer "see" me. Best of luck Chuck

12-18-06, 07:13 PM	#5
MRV Frogman Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 296 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Damn, that thing called its brother and now I have another one circling around my conning tower. gets out with a big hammer and dents the keel of that sucker THIS IS HOW THIS SOUNDS YOU §(§%/§%()§="(!!!!!!! To all former beta testers, I really enjoy the work that was done by all of you, but hasn't someone encountered this situation before?

12-18-06, 07:29 PM	#6
MRV Frogman Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 296 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Alright, its 13:30 ingame now, i'm out of torpedoes -because of duds and misses trying to kill the THIRD DD coming up- and battery power and have been chased for full 24 hours now. I tried everything, the last 6 hours I spent grounded waiting. I'm now terminating this patrol and going to bed. I surrender to the (death-)pingbots -.- In Sh4 and 5 pleeeease make those DD's GIVE UP when they are out of DC's and there is also no ship around that has DC's left. (If someone does, they still are useful to hold sonar contact) This would still suffice for hours of DC chasings.

12-18-06, 08:06 PM	#7
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	There are sevral cases in real life when DDs just sat and waited where they thaught there might be a sub. Costal DDs usualy didn't have anythign better to do if there was no convoy to defend. It's exsactly what I would do if I was commanding a DD. If you have tryed everything else than try and make a break for it on the surface at night. It has worked for me in a TypeIIA. Just don't go to fast or you will be spottes and keep the DD at 180* from you so you look small. If you can get 300m+ away with out being spotted then you are almost free.

12-18-06, 08:35 PM	#9
Mast XO Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denver, CO. Posts: 403 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	Sonar in 1939? That doesn't seem right. I thought sonar came out in mid/late 1940. Mast

12-19-06, 01:12 AM	#13
Dimitrius07 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	another tip Dont reload your torp while you ander DC attack Ring and stay in silent running Dont repare the uboat unless you dont have another choise. Why? Because all thise make some noice and you should be silent as a fish Also remember - dont use the C (ALARM!!! buutton) unless you dont have another choise. And for god sake dont travel to enemy harbours - no offence but you probably not captaine Prien Good luck

12-19-06, 04:07 AM	#15
Cap.Palla Officer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: italy Posts: 247 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 0	Well...i don't think you can be silent as a fish even if in silent running. I explain : i intercepted a large convoy in AL 03 ... i have advantage so i get my U-29 exacly at 90°STB respect the concoy course. Off course the head of convoy is made by a DD and i have to wait he pass me ... well i was at periscope depth ,all stop,silent running and in a calm sea(and periscope down) and i was sure the DD pass me without any problem! But for some reason,the DD start pingin me ...ping...ping...ping....so i turn to give him my short profile and go to 50m .....again...ping ping pign pign pign...deep charge in water sir! Luckily the charges are not so accurate and i can reach the center of the convoy ...... I returned home with a 29K tonnage ... but was not so easy...DDs and Corvette give me a 8 houars hunt....they damaged my compressor and sonar room! Well...i dont remember why post.....ah yes....i was all stop,silent runing and DD pinged me!!! WHY ? __________________