TW 2.2 feels like Aces of Deep

LaikaFatBum · 09-29-06, 11:05 PM

Playing TW 2.2 reminds me of Aces of Deep but better. Aces was exciting AI.

TW is better as it feels unpredicable and i never sure and like aces escorts take long time to shake but not impossible.

I agree TW more than a mod; its an experience! Long live TW

Der Teddy Bar · 09-30-06, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by LaikaFatBum

Playing TW 2.2 reminds me of Aces of Deep but better. Aces was exciting AI.

TW is better as it feels unpredicable and i never sure and like aces escorts take long time to shake but not impossible.

I agree TW more than a mod; its an experience! Long live TW

Loved that game, loved it! Played the AOD then the CAOD for about 10 years.

That is why out motto is... One of the stupidest things in game design is the lack of uncertainty given to the player

Like AOD/CAOD you need patience to play TW.

Immacolata · 09-30-06, 02:27 AM

Aye. I had this revelation last night with the dud torpedo bug experience. Finally managed to sneak into that huge convoy in the late evening of a hot june evening. I manage to get past the escorts and fire off 3 eels. 2 of them exploding harmlessly in the ocean (X.X). But one score. And then hell to pay for it 1 hour after that untill way past midnight untill I shake them. They were tough, I manage to shake them eventually. It felt great. Always cursing when the things turns out as I did NOT expect them. Which they do more in NYGM.

I remember last year if I had to dodge escorts without having downed at least 3 ships I was feeling I had wasted my time. Now? Im dancing with joy if I just get one down and only suffer depth charging for 1 hour :rotfl: Each sinking now MATTERS. And navigation tactics pay off.

Just wish I could find out why SH3 Commander breaks my game

supposedtobeworking · 09-30-06, 06:23 PM

better than aces of the deep--probably ok, but damn it is a testament to that game that people play it for ten years while it had I don't think any, not one, mod for it....and how many mods has it taken to keep sh3 alive? I think, more than just graphics and even gameplay (as important as it is) it is more a question of character, and that's what makes a classic--with aod you didn't need 3d glasses, or bundles of tweak programs to enjoy it, in fact the only reason I still purchase and am into subsims to this day is because of that game--because of the hope that I'll find a subsim(or any game for that matter) that can recreate the years of entertainment that game provided--still lookin. They sure don't make 'em like they used to, that's all I've got to say.

Fortunately for us we have folks around here who enjoy creating these monster mods and overhauling the whole friggin thing....btw, I just started using TW as I am a GW fan, and I love just as much...I have been trying to manually add some of the features from one to the other because I can't decide which one I like better.

Der Teddy Bar · 09-30-06, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Immacolata

Aye. I had this revelation last night with the dud torpedo bug experience. Finally managed to sneak into that huge convoy in the late evening of a hot june evening. I manage to get past the escorts and fire off 3 eels. 2 of them exploding harmlessly in the ocean (X.X). But one score. And then hell to pay for it 1 hour after that untill way past midnight untill I shake them. They were tough, I manage to shake them eventually. It felt great. Always cursing when the things turns out as I did NOT expect them. Which they do more in NYGM.

I remember last year if I had to dodge escorts without having downed at least 3 ships I was feeling I had wasted my time. Now? Im dancing with joy if I just get one down and only suffer depth charging for 1 hour :rotfl: Each sinking now MATTERS. And navigation tactics pay off.

Just wish I could find out why SH3 Commander breaks my game

I am right there with you! In my WaW Patrol 8, mid 1941, I had 2 convoy actions and I sank 3 ships (12,000+) with and damaged 2 (6,000+) from 9 torpedoes and I am estactic

even though 2 were deep runners or I had the AOB wrong and one was a certain miss.

Like you said, just making a successful attack and then surviving is a great feeling and is in itself a great reward.

Though patience and perseverance is essential to escape as there is no 'Cone of Silent Running' give me any more.

It now requires constant attention in the Nav Map and the hydrophones to choose the right time to go ~1 knot and the right times to do ahead full sprint. The thing is not to give up because you got re-detected, it happened in real life as well.

PS PM sent regarding SH3 Cmdr.

Der Teddy Bar · 09-30-06, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by supposedtobeworking

better than aces of the deep--probably ok, but damn it is a testament to that game that people play it for ten years while it had I don't think any, not one, mod for it....and how many mods has it taken to keep sh3 alive? I think, more than just graphics and even gameplay (as important as it is) it is more a question of character, and that's what makes a classic--with aod you didn't need 3d glasses, or bundles of tweak programs to enjoy it, in fact the only reason I still purchase and am into subsims to this day is because of that game--because of the hope that I'll find a subsim(or any game for that matter) that can recreate the years of entertainment that game provided--still lookin. They sure don't make 'em like they used to, that's all I've got to say.

Fortunately for us we have folks around here who enjoy creating these monster mods and overhauling the whole friggin thing....btw, I just started using TW as I am a GW fan, and I love just as much...I have been trying to manually add some of the features from one to the other because I can't decide which one I like better.

I even had a CAOD notebook just to play it. While I have rose coloured glasses on when I remember AOD & COAD I still know that it had plenty of warts that needed fixing. But, it was I feel better than anything up to SHIII.

Welcome aboard!

iambecomelife · 09-30-06, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Der Teddy Bar

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Originally Posted by supposedtobeworking

better than aces of the deep--probably ok, but damn it is a testament to that game that people play it for ten years while it had I don't think any, not one, mod for it....and how many mods has it taken to keep sh3 alive? I think, more than just graphics and even gameplay (as important as it is) it is more a question of character, and that's what makes a classic--with aod you didn't need 3d glasses, or bundles of tweak programs to enjoy it, in fact the only reason I still purchase and am into subsims to this day is because of that game--because of the hope that I'll find a subsim(or any game for that matter) that can recreate the years of entertainment that game provided--still lookin. They sure don't make 'em like they used to, that's all I've got to say.

Fortunately for us we have folks around here who enjoy creating these monster mods and overhauling the whole friggin thing....btw, I just started using TW as I am a GW fan, and I love just as much...I have been trying to manually add some of the features from one to the other because I can't decide which one I like better.

I even had a CAOD notebook just to play it. While I have rose coloured glasses on when I remember AOD & COAD I still know that it had plenty of warts that needed fixing. But, it was I feel better than anything up to SHIII.

Welcome aboard!

Not to get further off topic but I had a very entertaining AOD career just a couple of months ago - until I met my end off the Irish coast.

The immersion factor for that game is just amazing - also, as I mentioned on another thread, the merchant models and randomized tonnage were very impressive for their time.

AG124 · 09-30-06, 08:48 PM

I know. I missed that randomized tonnage in all of the Silent Hunter games.

At least the open-source dev team of Danger from the Deep resurrected it.:p

1mPHUNit0 · 12-11-06, 08:13 PM

Der Teddy Bar you are a great men
your crew and JScones peoples who love all
and your work always clear and constantly adjourned
and very collaborative and dialectic.
Not secret secret and soup.

Boris · 12-11-06, 09:01 PM

You're a funny man, 1mPHUNit0, I like you. That's why I'm going to kill you last.

Lanzfeld · 12-11-06, 09:28 PM

Hmmmm.....

I have not tried NYGM yet but I wonder.....

If someone was REALISM minded (like me)......would they like GWX or NYGM more???:hmm:

1mPHUNit0 · 12-11-06, 09:39 PM

I'm Italian-Falestinin.....you can kill me
you can't kill a people
And you have to fight....no surrender
at last...we will win.
We are on right

I like you too....change work

CCIP · 12-11-06, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lanzfeld

If someone was REALISM minded (like me)......would they like GWX or NYGM more???:hmm:

Depends entirely on what you consider to be realism.

So far indications suggest that NYGM is the more difficult of the two.

Corsair · 12-12-06, 05:19 AM

Difficult to answer at this time as we don't know much about GWX besides the opinions of the beta testers. As it is all a question of personal taste, the best thing to do will be to read the doc when it's available, then download and give it a try. I will for sure keep NYGM running on another install anyway.

Dowly · 12-12-06, 05:53 AM

Like Corsair said, it depends of the personal taste.

Realism means to me, having realistic sounds, gameplay & the look of the ships/subs/aircraft. So, that´s the reason I chose TGW.

09-29-06, 11:05 PM	#1
LaikaFatBum Watch Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 26 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	TW 2.2 feels like Aces of Deep Playing TW 2.2 reminds me of Aces of Deep but better. Aces was exciting AI. TW is better as it feels unpredicable and i never sure and like aces escorts take long time to shake but not impossible. I agree TW more than a mod; its an experience! Long live TW

09-30-06, 02:27 AM	#3
Immacolata Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 798 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Aye. I had this revelation last night with the dud torpedo bug experience. Finally managed to sneak into that huge convoy in the late evening of a hot june evening. I manage to get past the escorts and fire off 3 eels. 2 of them exploding harmlessly in the ocean (X.X). But one score. And then hell to pay for it 1 hour after that untill way past midnight untill I shake them. They were tough, I manage to shake them eventually. It felt great. Always cursing when the things turns out as I did NOT expect them. Which they do more in NYGM. I remember last year if I had to dodge escorts without having downed at least 3 ships I was feeling I had wasted my time. Now? Im dancing with joy if I just get one down and only suffer depth charging for 1 hour :rotfl: Each sinking now MATTERS. And navigation tactics pay off. Just wish I could find out why SH3 Commander breaks my game __________________ "The power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious, and the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist." - W. Churchill

09-30-06, 06:23 PM	#4
supposedtobeworking XO Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 436 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	better than aces of the deep--probably ok, but damn it is a testament to that game that people play it for ten years while it had I don't think any, not one, mod for it....and how many mods has it taken to keep sh3 alive? I think, more than just graphics and even gameplay (as important as it is) it is more a question of character, and that's what makes a classic--with aod you didn't need 3d glasses, or bundles of tweak programs to enjoy it, in fact the only reason I still purchase and am into subsims to this day is because of that game--because of the hope that I'll find a subsim(or any game for that matter) that can recreate the years of entertainment that game provided--still lookin. They sure don't make 'em like they used to, that's all I've got to say. Fortunately for us we have folks around here who enjoy creating these monster mods and overhauling the whole friggin thing....btw, I just started using TW as I am a GW fan, and I love just as much...I have been trying to manually add some of the features from one to the other because I can't decide which one I like better. Last edited by supposedtobeworking; 09-30-06 at 06:28 PM.

09-30-06, 08:48 PM	#8
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I know. I missed that randomized tonnage in all of the Silent Hunter games. At least the open-source dev team of Danger from the Deep resurrected it.:p __________________ DOWNLOAD GWX HERE: http://www.thegreywolves.com/index.html

12-11-06, 08:13 PM	#9
1mPHUNit0 Chief Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 313 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Der Teddy Bar you are a great men your crew and JScones peoples who love all and your work always clear and constantly adjourned and very collaborative and dialectic. Not secret secret and soup. Last edited by 1mPHUNit0; 12-11-06 at 09:59 PM.

12-11-06, 09:01 PM	#10
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	You're a funny man, 1mPHUNit0, I like you. That's why I'm going to kill you last.

12-11-06, 09:28 PM	#11
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Hmmmm..... I have not tried NYGM yet but I wonder..... If someone was REALISM minded (like me)......would they like GWX or NYGM more???:hmm:

12-11-06, 09:39 PM	#12
1mPHUNit0 Chief Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 313 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	I'm Italian-Falestinin.....you can kill me you can't kill a people And you have to fight....no surrender at last...we will win. We are on right I like you too....change work Last edited by 1mPHUNit0; 12-12-06 at 06:46 AM.

12-12-06, 05:19 AM	#14
Corsair Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toulouse France Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Difficult to answer at this time as we don't know much about GWX besides the opinions of the beta testers. As it is all a question of personal taste, the best thing to do will be to read the doc when it's available, then download and give it a try. I will for sure keep NYGM running on another install anyway. __________________ NYGM 3.4A / Living SH3 V5.1 + SH3 Commander

12-12-06, 05:53 AM	#15
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,053 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Like Corsair said, it depends of the personal taste. Realism means to me, having realistic sounds, gameplay & the look of the ships/subs/aircraft. So, that´s the reason I chose TGW.