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Old 12-07-06, 02:09 PM   #1
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Yesterday after a bit of a struggle and a lot of help from the forum I got GW up and running. So I thought.

I've now just lost my boat for the third time. These are the circumstances.

The date is 1 September 1939. Not at war with England.

1 Start a new career.

2 Leave Wilhemshafen in broad daylight, on the surface, at 7kts behind the escort destroyer.

3 Friendly BF109 passes over.

4 Next thing is the boat is receiving damage. Check and have 10+ mtrs water under keel.

5 Not in collision with anything.

6 Crew dying like flies.

End of career.

The first time it happened I thought it might be because I was running at x2 time so kept to x1 for next two patrols.

The time when I receive damage varies but always after I've cleared the harbour.

I wonder if it's the friendly ac. I don't think the Poles had anything similar looking to the BF109 that could reach me, and even if they did it's unlikely that they could carry out a raid on the first day of the war.

Any ideas before I uninstall?
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Old 12-07-06, 02:12 PM   #2
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ah, do you have friendly mines installed? Just lay a course out of the harbor on the map. Stay to the middle of it. I do this all the time and TC as high as it will let me. No issues...NEVER
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Old 12-07-06, 02:14 PM   #3
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Yepp, sounds like mines to me..... But remember: Maybe Bernard used the torpedo propeller as a hairdryer...and we all know how fragile those torps were at the beginning of the war...:hmm:
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Old 12-07-06, 02:16 PM   #4
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I´m pretty sure you hit a mine. I think there´s a slide out map in the left upper corner of the map screen (F5) that shows you the location of the mines in friendly ports.
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Old 12-07-06, 02:19 PM   #5
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Hey are you runing SH3 commander? If so did you roll it back before installing GW?
If not You might have stuck a mine?
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Old 12-07-06, 02:21 PM   #6
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Thanks for the quick reply.

I think I've got the friendly mines box ticked, I'm at 74% realism.

But that being so how do I know where the minefields are?

I'd be very surprised if the Germans laid mines in the bay it which Wilhemshaven is situated, given the amount of local traffic about.

I plot a course out of the harbour and all the way out as far as Heligoland and then on towards my destination.

In the instances I reported I was following the escort ship out as I think that was the usual procedure.
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Old 12-07-06, 02:23 PM   #7
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When in navmap view there is a pull down minefield map in the top left hand corner
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Old 12-07-06, 02:24 PM   #8
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It's almost definately mines. All harbours are mined, local traffic knows where they are.

Theres a pull-down map in the top left corner, while in the nav-map screen. It shows the locations of mines and subnets for all friendly harbours. If it still pisses you off, install the no friendly mines and subnets version.
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Old 12-07-06, 02:28 PM   #9
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Thanks to everyone for sorting me out.

Hi! Ho! Hi! Ho! it's back to war we go!!

Watch this space.
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Old 12-07-06, 02:29 PM   #10
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Yeah man, I dumped the friendly mine/net mod. I got enough to worry about without adding in my own peeps doing me in with a cleverly placed mine
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Old 12-07-06, 02:36 PM   #11
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I know exactly how you feel. Initially after I've installed GW I hit a mine as well. It was a total anti climax to a wonderful game. Thankfully I found out about the navigation map and I never looked back (until I saw GWX that is )
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Old 12-07-06, 02:50 PM   #12
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You wouldn't believe how many times I died leaving port in GW by hitting a mine

I was being a right Bernard because I knew they were there and it didn't click that it was them killing me everytime
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Old 12-07-06, 02:58 PM   #13
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Anyway, do not uninstall until GWX comes out.........
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Old 12-07-06, 03:06 PM   #14
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For the first time i leave a new port where i dont know where the mines and subnets are i follow the "guardboat". He show me the way where to go on a safe route , then i know what route to take next time , i just blast pass that guardboat.

Another way to tell is to look out where the airplanes route are but they are not that accurate as the guardboat.
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Old 12-08-06, 01:09 AM   #15
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Can understand the frustration but the info is there to keep you on the straight and narrow. I like the danger factor that a RL Kaleun would have had. They had the additional concern of a stray mine getting loose during a storm and floating freely around the harbour on the tide!
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