Type XXI Broken in SH3?

[Tachyon]

Hey, I haven't played this game long enough...so correct me If i'm wrong in my assumption. I've read some posts on this forum saying that the Type XXI "doesn't work" in SH3 for some reason... Is this true?

[VonHelsching]

Originally Posted by Tachyon

Hey, I haven't played this game long enough...so correct me If i'm wrong in my assumption. I've read some posts on this forum saying that the Type XXI "doesn't work" in SH3 for some reason... Is this true?

Not any more. At least partially in GW1.1a and fully in the upcoming GWX.

[Tachyon]

Partially? I don't understand. Please clarify.

[flakmonkey]

Im responsible for at least 1 post complaining about the broken type21, Every time i try to start a campaign patrol with one i instantly get the message "main pump destroyed" leaving my sub immobile and sitting in port.
This happens to me every time (even in single missions- except in SMs it doesnt seem to affect anything).

[Hartmann]

Originally Posted by VonHelsching

Not any more. At least partially in GW1.1a and fully in the upcoming GWX.

I read time ago that one feature of Nygm and now of Gw , the anti humming bird mod, uses parts of the XXI boat, the pumps if i remember well ,for simulate the negative buoiancy below 2 knts.

i think that i will wait some time until i install a new big mod.

with The last fixes could be great have this boat working in campaign. or in these mods a option to use XXi boat :hmm: .

i like the what if.... scenarios.

[Stealth Hunter]

That bugs me.Hopefully, someone will fix their mod as it is uber cool.

[VonHelsching]

Originally Posted by flakmonkey

Im responsible for at least 1 post complaining about the broken type21, Every time i try to start a campaign patrol with one i instantly get the message "main pump destroyed" leaving my sub immobile and sitting in port.
This happens to me every time (even in single missions- except in SMs it doesnt seem to affect anything).

This has nothing to do with any SHIII stock flaw for the XXI. Probably this is a result of a mod or a combination of mods.

[VonHelsching]

Originally Posted by Hartmann

I read time ago that one feature of Nygm and now of Gw , the anti humming bird mod, uses parts of the XXI boat, the pumps if i remember well ,for simulate the negative buoiancy below 2 knts.

i think that i will wait some time until i install a new big mod.

with The last fixes could be great have this boat working in campaign. or in these mods a option to use XXi boat :hmm: .

i like the what if.... scenarios.

Hartman,

Just to clarify things:

Indeed the NYGM team used a zone of the XXI for the negative buoyancy mod. I do not know if this renders the XXI useless. Anyway, you would have to ask the NYGM team for that. This has nothing to do with GW.

The GWX team is implementing in GWX a accurate (to the extent possible in SHII) positive buoyancy mod. This mod does not affect the Type XXI.

GW1.1a, fixed some aspects of the XXI, like the never_ending_battery_reload bug and temporarily a "radar destroyed" message. In GWX, more will be fixed.

Von

[Hartmann]

Thanks for the explanation

i thought that was in the two mods, sorry by the mistake.

[Tachyon]

Right, so the Type XXI is playable in SH3 GW 1.1 a?

[VonHelsching]

Originally Posted by Tachyon

Right, so the Type XXI is playable in SH3 GW 1.1 a?

Of course. Actually, it's my favored Uboat.

There were some problems with the 24hour fatique scheme, but these have been corrected. Here's the link in case you use 24hrs.

http://users.forthnet.gr/ath/helsing/sh3mods/GW_24_Hour_Fatigue_Fix.zip

Von

[Tachyon]

Ah, thanks for that 24 hour fatigue link. But in what way does it alter the 24 hr model in GW? I found micromanaging the crew to be annoying, how does this patch update GW's 24 hr model?