88 vs. 105 deckgun

danoh · 11-01-06, 03:52 PM

Howdy folks, I've had the game about 2 months and gotten a lot of good tips off of this forum for about a month. Time to start asking my own questions.

Which deck gun do you think is better, the 88 or the 105? I ask because I've just switched from a VIIB to a IXC, and thus have a 105 now instead of an 88. Since the 105 carries a lot less ammo, I was hoping it would sink ships quickly, but my first effort against a C3 cargo took 26 rounds. My gun crew orders are to fire at the waterline at short range.

Does anyone have any further deckgun tips? I have a watch officer with gunnery specialty and two unteroffizer with the deckgun specialty who man the gun with a third sailor, plus I try to promote and give medals to this crew as often as possible. Since early 1941 the merchants have usually carried one gun so I manually destroy it first, then let the crew fire at the waterline at short range. Can you sink ships faster with another method, like blowing up the deck cargo first or targeting the bridge?

Thanks for your help.

AVGWarhawk · 11-01-06, 03:57 PM

To be honest, I use GW mod. The gun is a little undermodded. 50-60 shots to get a ship to go down. No armor piercing rounds. As far as I can tell there is no difference in the guns with respect for the GW mod. Thats ok with me because in my view the cannon was used for defensive purposes with a few exceptions. I only use the cannon to save my torpedos. If a ship is floundering, out comes the cannon! I believe the cannon is being worked on in the new improved GWX mod.....I'm waiting patiently but it is getting harder each day....

mookiemookie · 11-01-06, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by danoh

I was hoping it would sink ships quickly, but my first effort against a C3 cargo took 26 rounds. My gun crew orders are to fire at the waterline at short range.

From a purely historic standpoint, 26 rounds to sink a (I'm assuming already crippled by a torpedo attack) ship is not too shabby. That's probably about the best you can expect.

Furthermore.....I never did understand why Der Alte didn't just use the deck gun to finish off that burning tanker instead of wasting another torpedo on it...

Ducimus · 11-01-06, 04:42 PM

How many rounds it takes to sink a ship depends if your using GW or NYGM vs stock or near stock settings.

Stock, the game doesnt give enough rounds for the 105, but this is easily correctable by editing the basic.cfg.

The primary difference damage wise is the 105 has a higher maximum damage by a couple points, its not that much higher really. But also a higher minimum damage as well. So your damage variance on the 105 is a bit tighter then the 88.

crazypete · 11-02-06, 09:45 AM

Historically, how many rounds did the uboats carry for the 105?

Sailor Steve · 11-02-06, 11:37 AM

150-160.

Warmonger · 11-02-06, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Furthermore.....I never did understand why Der Alte didn't just use the deck gun to finish off that burning tanker instead of wasting another torpedo on it...

Well, think of the possibility of a tanker exploding a few hundred meters of you, spilling burning oil all over the place. Not nice...

11-01-06, 03:52 PM	#1
danoh Seaman Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 33 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	88 vs. 105 deckgun Howdy folks, I've had the game about 2 months and gotten a lot of good tips off of this forum for about a month. Time to start asking my own questions. Which deck gun do you think is better, the 88 or the 105? I ask because I've just switched from a VIIB to a IXC, and thus have a 105 now instead of an 88. Since the 105 carries a lot less ammo, I was hoping it would sink ships quickly, but my first effort against a C3 cargo took 26 rounds. My gun crew orders are to fire at the waterline at short range. Does anyone have any further deckgun tips? I have a watch officer with gunnery specialty and two unteroffizer with the deckgun specialty who man the gun with a third sailor, plus I try to promote and give medals to this crew as often as possible. Since early 1941 the merchants have usually carried one gun so I manually destroy it first, then let the crew fire at the waterline at short range. Can you sink ships faster with another method, like blowing up the deck cargo first or targeting the bridge? Thanks for your help. __________________ "What the world needs is less love and more common decency" - Kurt Vonnegut

11-01-06, 03:57 PM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	To be honest, I use GW mod. The gun is a little undermodded. 50-60 shots to get a ship to go down. No armor piercing rounds. As far as I can tell there is no difference in the guns with respect for the GW mod. Thats ok with me because in my view the cannon was used for defensive purposes with a few exceptions. I only use the cannon to save my torpedos. If a ship is floundering, out comes the cannon! I believe the cannon is being worked on in the new improved GWX mod.....I'm waiting patiently but it is getting harder each day.... __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

11-02-06, 11:37 AM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	150-160. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

11-01-06, 04:42 PM	#4
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	How many rounds it takes to sink a ship depends if your using GW or NYGM vs stock or near stock settings. Stock, the game doesnt give enough rounds for the 105, but this is easily correctable by editing the basic.cfg. The primary difference damage wise is the 105 has a higher maximum damage by a couple points, its not that much higher really. But also a higher minimum damage as well. So your damage variance on the 105 is a bit tighter then the 88.

11-02-06, 09:45 AM	#5
crazypete Bosun Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 62 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Historically, how many rounds did the uboats carry for the 105?