Terrorist attack in Paris on French magazine

[Onkel Neal]

I'm starting a new thread on this horrific event, since the original one got off to a bad start. Try to keep the ideology to a minimum. Discuss the news, add your opinion, but try not to ruin this into the ground

[Betonov]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30710883

One thing I love about satirical media, they won't let themselves be bullied like this, no matter how tragical.

[Tchocky]

Doing the rounds on Twitter. Heartening to see.

I wonder how the police response will stack up against the Boston Marathon manhunt, seeing as the gunmen are still at large.

[Jimbuna]

A terrible senseless act of barbarism....I was especially moved when I saw the police officer who had been wounded being executed with a single shot to the head whilst holding his hands up in surrender

Where next?

[Oberon]

Could be anywhere Jim, we are at war after all. The enemy will grow stronger or weaker depending partially on our actions, but make no mistake we must not give in to extremism, nor answer it with extremism of our own.
I hope the French police catch these terrorists alive and they are denied the chance to martyr themselves.

[Betonov]

They should all understand (wishfull thinking) that the less they behave like barbarians, the less their prophet would be mocked.

[Armistead]

Gonna see more and more of this. The world is at war with radical Islam and we can't figure how to deal with so called moderate Islam without offense to war with the radicals. It's gonna continue to worsen and eventually a major showdown....

[Oberon]

That is exactly the thing, it is how we treat moderate Islam, either we drive them into the arms of the extremists and make more work for ourselves, or we work at driving a wedge between them and the extremists and cut off the extremists manpower base. It's not foolproof, you are going to get incidents like this, but if you take the national population of Muslims of a country and the number of extremists in that country and compare the two it is hardly an overwhelming majority, unlike some people would have you believe, for their own political and ideological causes.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by Oberon

That is exactly the thing, it is how we treat moderate Islam, either we drive them into the arms of the extremists and make more work for ourselves, or we work at driving a wedge between them and the extremists and cut off the extremists manpower base. It's not foolproof, you are going to get incidents like this, but if you take the national population of Muslims of a country and the number of extremists in that country and compare the two it is hardly an overwhelming majority, unlike some people would have you believe, for their own political and ideological causes.

Well, just look at the numbers of so called moderates that want to ban free speech against Muhammad and are OK for those that offend their religion to be killed.

The only ones that can drive a true wedge are moderate Muslims, which mean they have to go to war in mass against radical, in principle and law. The fact is Islam run states won't do this.

In nations like France large radical populations are growing, you have possible 1000's joining ISIS and other radical groups and they seem to have free roam back and forth....It's eventually going to turn into a civil war or clash of civilizations. Radicals only want to grow and terror so much as they keep gaining power, but eventually we'll all be involved in another major ME war..

The only thing that can reform Islam is Islam....

[Skybird]

Oh yeah, there it shows up again: this dream of a "moderate Islam". Not even six hours from first calling the news to mentioning moderate Islam - not bad, but it could be mentioned even faster!

Its not in the scripture it bases on, but still - even if the dream lived just one week, one day - it nevertheless has LIVED !

Islam is as totalitarian by its ideological fundament as communism or fascism are. Supremacist to the core and bone, unforgiving towards anybody refusing it, nobody's friend except to itself, all world's enemy. A world it says it has the divine obligation to claim all, and where peace only can be had on your knees, under the sword of Muhammad, in voluntary or enforced submission, the green flag flying in the wind above you. You either love green - or you are to be dead.

This and nothing else is the teaching of Islam, and always has been. The Arabic root of the word Islam means submission.

[Tchocky]

Still no word on the gunmen. Getting some heartbreaking texts from a friend in Paris.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Still no word on the gunmen. Getting some heartbreaking texts from a friend in Paris.

If these guys get away I'm sure they'll strike again eventually.

[Silent Steel]

People like this have no reason for existence and will not prevail.

They should think of this;

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

by Evelyn Beatrice Hall

If they can think at all

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

If these guys get away I'm sure they'll strike again eventually.

That's the weirdest thing about this.

No martyrdom. No hostages. No public statements by the attackers. Makes you expect more.

Ugh.

[ikalugin]

Well how about we derail this into the Kosovo direction, ahh, I forgot, Serbians are blamed by the West for everything that ever happened there.