Bit of trivia

Sharkstooth · 07-26-23, 10:00 AM

GREAT SEA STORY (Trivia)
The passenger steamer SS Warrimoo was quietly knifing its way through the waters of the mid-Pacific on its way from Vancouver to Australia. The navigator had just finished working out a star fix and brought Captain John DS. Phillips, the result. The Warrimoo's position was LAT 0º 31' N and LONG 179 30' W. The date was 31 December 1899. "Know what this means?" First Mate Payton broke in, "We're only a few miles from the intersection of the Equator and the International Date Line". Captain Phillips was prankish enough to take full advantage of the opportunity for achieving the navigational freak of a lifetime.
He called his navigators to the bridge to check & double check the ship's position. He changed course slightly so as to bear directly on his mark. Then he adjusted the engine speed.
The calm weather & clear night worked in his favor. At mid-night the SS Warrimoo lay on the Equator at exactly the point where it crossed the International Date Line! The consequences of this bizarre position were many:
The forward part (bow) of the ship was in the Southern Hemisphere & in the middle of summer.
The rear (stern) was in the Northern Hemisphere & in the middle of winter.
The date in the aft part of the ship was 31 December 1899.
In the bow (forward) part it was 1 January 1900.
This ship was therefore not only in:
Two different days,
Two different months,
Two different years,
Two different seasons
But in two different centuries - all at the same time!
Also read https://hotflav.com/30-images-of-the...ngerous-sides/

Aktungbby · 07-26-23, 10:31 AM

Sharkstooth!

That is two-two too much

particularly your photo site's #21: Lake Ponchartrain Louisiana Causeway! I've driven that in the 70's in my Freightliner 18-wheeler-no mistakes allowed!

Catfish · 07-26-23, 11:40 AM

Hello Sharkstooth, welcome back indeed

Interesting story with the ship being in different time zones at the same time.

Re the link i have dived a bit myself and am usually not scared; but one of the first times in the mediterranean I was swimming at the surface snorkeling and comfortably looking down at rocks, sea urchins and fishes a meter beneath me, until I 'overshot' an edge and suddenly hovered above a vertical blue-black abyss, very much like some of the photos posted in your link. Really had to take a deep breath to overcome this frightening feeling.

ET2SN · 07-26-23, 02:52 PM

While most sailors are familiar with the Shellback (crossing the equator), there is also a similar ceremony (but very rare) when crossing the equator at the int'l date line. I believe its called The Golden Dragon but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Platapus · 07-26-23, 05:10 PM

I believe it is called

Golden Shellback, a person who has crossed the equator at the 180th meridian.

Emerald Shellback which is received after crossing the Equator at the prime meridian

Has anyone received both the Golden shellback and the Emerald Shellback?

Or does only the first time count?

Jimbuna · 07-27-23, 04:26 AM

Never heard of this in the UK or when I was a merchant navy engineer.

Eichhörnchen · 07-31-23, 12:41 PM

On the other side of things, the Greenwich Meridian passes through the road near to our house - just a few hundred yards from here out in the fens - so what am I when I cycle over it and back? I have to cross it whenever I go anywhere

Jeff-Groves · 07-31-23, 01:25 PM

I once layed down on the Four Corners.
So I was in 4 States at the same moment in time!

I ain't been right since.

Aktungbby · 07-31-23, 01:45 PM

/\ every time we chat on the phone U do seam 2 B in a sorry state?

Jeff-Groves · 07-31-23, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

/\ every time we chat on the phone U do seam 2 B in a sorry state?

I seem to perpetually operate in a state of disbelief and/or bewilderment now days.

August · 07-31-23, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

On the other side of things, the Greenwich Meridian passes through the road near to our house - just a few hundred yards from here out in the fens - so what am I when I cycle over it and back? I have to cross it whenever I go anywhere

Don't worry. You're in the exactly same boat as anyone else who lives on one of the meridian lines. It's those of us way out in the minutes and seconds who might have an issue.

Jeff-Groves · 07-31-23, 02:43 PM

Technically? Your going back and forth through time aren't you?

Catfish · 07-31-23, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

I seem to perpetually operate in a state of disbelief and/or bewilderment now days.

I fear that makes you perfectly normal

07-26-23, 10:00 AM	#1
Sharkstooth Red Shoe Queen Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 124 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Bit of trivia GREAT SEA STORY (Trivia) The passenger steamer SS Warrimoo was quietly knifing its way through the waters of the mid-Pacific on its way from Vancouver to Australia. The navigator had just finished working out a star fix and brought Captain John DS. Phillips, the result. The Warrimoo's position was LAT 0º 31' N and LONG 179 30' W. The date was 31 December 1899. "Know what this means?" First Mate Payton broke in, "We're only a few miles from the intersection of the Equator and the International Date Line". Captain Phillips was prankish enough to take full advantage of the opportunity for achieving the navigational freak of a lifetime. He called his navigators to the bridge to check & double check the ship's position. He changed course slightly so as to bear directly on his mark. Then he adjusted the engine speed. The calm weather & clear night worked in his favor. At mid-night the SS Warrimoo lay on the Equator at exactly the point where it crossed the International Date Line! The consequences of this bizarre position were many: The forward part (bow) of the ship was in the Southern Hemisphere & in the middle of summer. The rear (stern) was in the Northern Hemisphere & in the middle of winter. The date in the aft part of the ship was 31 December 1899. In the bow (forward) part it was 1 January 1900. This ship was therefore not only in: Two different days, Two different months, Two different years, Two different seasons But in two different centuries - all at the same time! Also read https://hotflav.com/30-images-of-the...ngerous-sides/

07-26-23, 11:40 AM	#3
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,915 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hello Sharkstooth, welcome back indeed Interesting story with the ship being in different time zones at the same time. Re the link i have dived a bit myself and am usually not scared; but one of the first times in the mediterranean I was swimming at the surface snorkeling and comfortably looking down at rocks, sea urchins and fishes a meter beneath me, until I 'overshot' an edge and suddenly hovered above a vertical blue-black abyss, very much like some of the photos posted in your link. Really had to take a deep breath to overcome this frightening feeling. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

07-26-23, 05:10 PM	#5
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,990 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I believe it is called Golden Shellback, a person who has crossed the equator at the 180th meridian. Emerald Shellback which is received after crossing the Equator at the prime meridian Has anyone received both the Golden shellback and the Emerald Shellback? Or does only the first time count? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

07-27-23, 04:26 AM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,538 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Never heard of this in the UK or when I was a merchant navy engineer. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

07-31-23, 12:41 PM	#7
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 15,793 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	On the other side of things, the Greenwich Meridian passes through the road near to our house - just a few hundred yards from here out in the fens - so what am I when I cycle over it and back? I have to cross it whenever I go anywhere __________________

07-26-23, 10:31 AM	#2
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 28,003 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Welcome back! Sharkstooth! That is two-two too much particularly your photo site's #21: Lake Ponchartrain Louisiana Causeway! I've driven that in the 70's in my Freightliner 18-wheeler-no mistakes allowed! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe" Last edited by Aktungbby; 07-26-23 at 02:59 PM.

07-26-23, 02:52 PM	#4
ET2SN ET2/SS Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 2,560 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	While most sailors are familiar with the Shellback (crossing the equator), there is also a similar ceremony (but very rare) when crossing the equator at the int'l date line. I believe its called The Golden Dragon but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

07-31-23, 01:25 PM	#8
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,395 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	I once layed down on the Four Corners. So I was in 4 States at the same moment in time! I ain't been right since.

07-31-23, 01:45 PM	#9
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 28,003 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	/\ every time we chat on the phone U do seam 2 B in a sorry state? __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

07-31-23, 02:43 PM	#12
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,395 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	Technically? Your going back and forth through time aren't you?